Legendary Staff from Naxxramas

[RubiksCube]

Seriously is Blizzard fuckin crazy?

Druid Version:

Atiash, Staff of the Guardian
Two Hand Staff
130-244 Damage
(64.4 damage per second)
+28 Stamina
+28 Intellect
+27 Spirit
Durability 145 / 145
Requires Level 60
Equip: Restores 11 mana per 5 sec.
Equip: Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 300
Equip: +420 Attack Power in Cat, Bear, and Dire Bear forms only.
Equip: Restores 11 mana every 5 sec to party members within 30 yards.
Use: Creates a portal. Teleporting group members that use it to Karazhan.



300 to Healing AND 420 Attackpower in Forms, ARE THEY FUCKING KIDDING?

[Soulless]

Balanced.

[F4n4tiC]

And we will have teh Ashbringer .. gg.

Or maybe this little sweety ?

2-handed mace-
Mace of Menethil - 289-435 damage, 3.8 speed (95.3 DPS)
20 strength, 46 stamina, 2% crit

Fuck Ashbringer ;)
100dps 400+ maxdmg .... warri-nurf inc!

[RubiksCube]

Seriously, that staff alone has more + healing than my druid and I wear 5/8 Cenarion and the Stormrage Headpiece.

[RubiksCube]

Everyone in this forum should already know about http://whataboutpp.com , don't you think?

[Istari]

http://www.whataboutpp.com/nax-weapons.php

The staff will be a legendary quest item that varies per class. There will be a different aura for different classes.

Druid: 11 mana per 5 sec. aura.
Mage: +2% spell crit aura.
Priest: +60 healing aura.
Warlock: +60 spell damage aura.

Mage/Warlock Version
Atiash, Staff of the Guardian
Two Hand Staff
130-244 Damage
(64.4 damage per second)
+31 Stamina
+32 Intellect
+24 Spirit
Durability 145 / 145
Requires Level 60
Equip: Improves your chance to hit with spells by 2%.
Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 150
Use: Creates a portal. Teleporting group members that use it to Karazhan.



Druid/Priest Version
Atiash, Staff of the Guardian
Two Hand Staff
130-244 Damage
(64.4 damage per second)
+31 Stamina
+32 Intellect
+24 Spirit
Durability 145 / 145
Requires Level 60
Equip: Restores 11 mana per 5 sec.
Equip: Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 260
Use: Creates a portal. Teleporting group members that use it to Karazhan.

[Soruss]

*sigh*

[S3ppuku]

Druids getting more +healing then Priests o.O?

[Mylar]

And we will have teh Ashbringer .. gg.

Or maybe this little sweety ?


Fuck Ashbringer ;)
100dps 400+ maxdmg .... warri-nurf inc!


im seriously noxious >.<

[dNa]

Just me or is the Mage/Lock version really not very impressive ?
I mean 0crit and only slightly more dmg/stats than the nef version prolly easy to get like the priest staff in mc i guess :o

/edit/ nvm what i said just saw the aura stuff and the lockversion has 2% crit so the staff is fucking awesome and i want it :p (and i dont even play wow atm XD)

[RubiksCube]

"Face of Death"
3494 Armor
66 Blockwert
21 Stamina
+3% Blockchance
Blockvalue +21

Combat Rogue Sword ftw:
"The Hungering Cold"
One Hand!
138- 257 Damage
73.1 Dps
15 Stamina
40 Attackpower



Slayers Crest
Trinket
Use: +280 Ranged und Melee AP for 20 secs
Equip: 30 AP

Kingsfall
Dagger
Onehand
105-158 Damage
73.1 dps
16 Agi
+1 hit & +1 Crit.

Source: whataboutpp.com

I say balanced. Than I lol'ed.

[dNa]

whats ur problem ?
Items have to get better aq stuff is almost all bs and barely better then bwl stuff

[RubiksCube]

My problem is the equippment gap between different Level 60 Epics.

I mean, you should be able to get different epics and they should get "slightly better" or have different stats so you can focus on different things. My problem is, I feel the equippment gap between MC and AQ epics to be to large, let alone Naxxramas Epics now.

Basically I haven't realize that you can get to level 70 with the expansion and that items should really get THAT much better.

[Soruss]

Have you guys seen the SS of the level 62 rogue in full tier3 with only 4700 hp? It's like for every 40AP/1%crit/50spell damage they only add 2 or 3 stam and a spattering of resists here and there.

If they're going to make the game unplayable for non-raiders, they may as well make the gear so everyone isn't just one shotting each other.

[Wyvvy]

Pretty sick.

[sergio]

Pretty sick.
WYVVYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[Wyvvy]

WYVVYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Hey serge =p

[Ziot]

People are overreacting to the gear. This is gear on a tier 3 level plus it is going to carry you into expansion which is up to level 70. Think about grinding 60-70, people are going to do it. You are going to need gear to take you to ten new levels of content.

The staff is pretty good, not going to lie, but any guild that gives it to any class but mage is going to regret it. It is good all around for their classes, but it will get good permanent use from mage and maybe druid.

[Soruss]

People are overreacting to the gear. This is gear on a tier 3 level plus it is going to carry you into expansion which is up to level 70. Think about grinding 60-70, people are going to do it. You are going to need gear to take you to ten new levels of content.

The staff is pretty good, not going to lie, but any guild that gives it to any class but mage is going to regret it. It is good all around for their classes, but it will get good permanent use from mage and maybe druid.

To me the problem is that Blizzard continues to scale the gear without thinking about pvp. Sure, whatever people in uber epics beat people with bad old epics. But they could at least make it so damage doesn't increase so much compared to hp.

[Jedus]

Posting in legendary Wyvy thread. Oh and whats up with the lack of staminia on the tier 3 sets? It's such a minor increase.

[Trixx]

Posting in legendary Wyvy thread. Oh and whats up with the lack of staminia on the tier 3 sets? It's such a minor increase.
warlocks know what they want..STAM SUP!

[Mylar]

People are overreacting to the gear. This is gear on a tier 3 level plus it is going to carry you into expansion which is up to level 70. Think about grinding 60-70, people are going to do it. You are going to need gear to take you to ten new levels of content.

The staff is pretty good, not going to lie, but any guild that gives it to any class but mage is going to regret it. It is good all around for their classes, but it will get good permanent use from mage and maybe druid.


yes but what about the months between 1.11 and expansion. Where ppl are only lvl 60, and the warrior who got that mace runs around twohitting _anything_ ?

Yes you must bridge the gap from 60-70, but not that far ahead of the expansion >.<

I reckon 1.11 comes in a monthish, then add another monthish until blizz makes khelthuzad killable, then its gonna start popping up (atleast on a high comp server as mine) and your gonna have 4-5 months (remember 1.12 is before xpansion aswell) after that before the xpansion is here. (my guess is 7monthsish from 1.11 -> expansion)

[dNa]

yes but what about the months between 1.11 and expansion. Where ppl are only lvl 60, and the warrior who got that mace runs around twohitting _anything_ ?

Yes you must bridge the gap from 60-70, but not that far ahead of the expansion >.<

I reckon 1.11 comes in a monthish, then add another monthish until blizz makes khelthuzad killable, then its gonna start popping up (atleast on a high comp server as mine) and your gonna have 4-5 months (remember 1.12 is before xpansion aswell) after that before the xpansion is here. (my guess is 7monthsish from 1.11 -> expansion)

You forgot that noone pvps in wow, and you wont 2hit raidmobs ;)

[Ziot]

without thinking about pvp.
You're playing this game for all the wrong reasons. If you're still playing this game for PVP then just read this now and give up hope.

There are plenty of concepts on how to scale pve without ruining pvp, EQ2 did it fine. They made it so items and spells do different things in pve and pvp, so you could have a weapon scale a ton to keep par with pve but not scale so high for pvp.

Will Blizzard ever do it? Nope.


yes but what about the months between 1.11 and expansion.

Doesn't mean Kel'Thuzad will be dead before expansion. Infact, I very much doubt anyone will have that mace or the legendary staff before expansion. Assuming they do things right. (lol)

[Mylar]

Doesn't mean Kel'Thuzad will be dead before expansion. Infact, I very much doubt anyone will have that mace or the legendary staff before expansion. Assuming they do things right. (lol)


not that i dont have faith in blizz, but i honestly belive they are gonna continue their cheapo-lamo-fagtastic conspiracy to lengthen the life of encounters. They have since retail, why stop now?
You saw how fast the fuckers have died after every "disable godmode" hotfix by blizz

http://i6.cashmoneyuploads.com/img/allnite20a8.gif (http://www.cashmoneyuploads.com/)



And yes, i think thuzad will die(again hah) before expansion. I agree that mace is about the powerlvl i expect from the expansion.

[Soruss]

You're playing this game for all the wrong reasons. If you're still playing this game for PVP then just read this now and give up hope.

There are plenty of concepts on how to scale pve without ruining pvp, EQ2 did it fine. They made it so items and spells do different things in pve and pvp, so you could have a weapon scale a ton to keep par with pve but not scale so high for pvp.

Will Blizzard ever do it? Nope.

I'm still playing WoW because of the people I play with/against, not because of PvE or PvP. However, I try to remain hopeful that Blizzard will start actually caring about PvP like they claim they do.

I honestly think Blizzard scales the way they do and at the rate they do to force people to go from MC -> BWL -> AQ -> Naxx -> whatever. If they don't make it so the gear is a big enough improvement on each step, then people will start to skip right to the best gear.

[Trixx]

Ziot is not a believer...he must be cleansed!

[NurfedRogue]

Seriously is Blizzard fuckin crazy?

Druid Version:

Atiash, Staff of the Guardian
Two Hand Staff
130-244 Damage
(64.4 damage per second)
+28 Stamina
+28 Intellect
+27 Spirit
Durability 145 / 145
Requires Level 60
Equip: Restores 11 mana per 5 sec.
Equip: Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 300
Equip: +420 Attack Power in Cat, Bear, and Dire Bear forms only.
Equip: Restores 11 mana every 5 sec to party members within 30 yards.
Use: Creates a portal. Teleporting group members that use it to Karazhan.



300 to Healing AND 420 Attackpower in Forms, ARE THEY FUCKING KIDDING?
Giev staff to lvl 60 Dr00d :D lol (my dr00d ofc :D)

[Ziot]

However, I try to remain hopeful that Blizzard will start actually caring about PvP like they claim they do.
If only there was a big enough market for PvP. :(


Ziot is not a believer...he must be cleansed!
Hey, atleast I still play the game. ;)

[IN88fingers]

Aoo

[Devilnaut]

If only there was a big enough market for PvP. :(



There never will be, as long as companies are content to make money indulging their players in masturbatory item-chasing timesinks..

[Futurity]

If only there was a big enough market for PvP. :(

There is a huge market for PvP.
Recently i read article about MMOs and how successful they were.
Everquest had 500k subscribers while Lineage had 3 millions. We all know that EQ was about leet loot while Lineage was about sieges.

My point is: your statement is right if you take into consideration only American market. Americans are all about killing monsters, having a leet loot and looks. Asians on other hand are more into gore and PvP combat. Maybe that’s why we have so many pve mmos for American market and so many pvp mmos for Asian.

Good question is: Why WoW(a pve mmo) was so successful (5 millions subscribers) worldwide? Anyone dare to answer?

[RubiksCube]

my guess is, because it was the first mmo to actually "step out of the niche".

Most MMO's were exclusively played by people like many of us are, hardcore gamers. Willing to spend a huge amount of time on leveling and then on gearing and pvp'ing.

At least 80% of the overall playerbase of WoW are casual gamers. That's 4 million subscribers playing this game simply because it's made by Blizz, because the leveling is fast, because the game is easy to handle (which you couldn't say about most other MMO's).

And that's 1 million subscribers that are "hardcore". Many thought PvP in WoW will be good, so they joined the game. Many didn't or left back to old games like DAoC after that, but even some of the PvP oriented people stayed, because they felt WoW PvE was getting enjoyable (compare Molten Core encounters to BWL to ZG to AQ and you'll get the point of me talking about improvement of PvE).

With that being said, you have the small hardcore base (of EQ in you example) with some of the huge PvP Base turned PvE by the game that are like 20% of the playerbase. And you have the casuals. That's were you get your 5 million.

Come to think of it, here's another question: With WoW PvE improving so much in terms of fun and challenging encounters, and the WoW developers stating they'll focus on getting Outdoor PvP and General PvP more interesting, does that raise hopes for WoW PvP?

Also, PvP in WoW may mean nothing, but can anyone say it's not "fun" to play?

[socratic]

Come to think of it, here's another question: With WoW PvE improving so much in terms of fun and challenging encounters, and the WoW developers stating they'll focus on getting Outdoor PvP and General PvP more interesting, does that raise hopes for WoW PvP?
Nope, cross server BGs will be strong for about a month, then interest will fall because they're poorly designed, and it'll go back to the way it is now.



Also, PvP in WoW may mean nothing, but can anyone say it's not "fun" to play?
I don't have fun getting afk'd out against after waiting an hour to get in.

[RubiksCube]

The question "is it fun to play" includes playing it.

Getting "afk'ed out against" is not playing it.

[Soruss]

Ehm. Playing WoW has it's moments, but every now and then I get tired of not being able to flat out stomp people due to skill and go play counter-strike or something. /miss uo :\

[Ziot]

There is a huge market for PvP.

Compared to PvE? No.

[Athrun]

There is a huge market for PvP.
Recently i read article about MMOs and how successful they were.
Everquest had 500k subscribers while Lineage had 3 millions. We all know that EQ was about leet loot while Lineage was about sieges.

My point is: your statement is right if you take into consideration only American market. Americans are all about killing monsters, having a leet loot and looks. Asians on other hand are more into gore and PvP combat. Maybe that’s why we have so many pve mmos for American market and so many pvp mmos for Asian.

Good question is: Why WoW(a pve mmo) was so successful (5 millions subscribers) worldwide? Anyone dare to answer?

cuz it's blizzard, and the media thinks everthing made by blizzard is gold, so WoW got huge amounts of free publicity