New warrior build ??????

[mfzmm]

I am currently an Arms warrior and with ms nerfed im wondering how good berserker stance and def stance are gonna be

[Ei]

Def stance is as crappy as it was before
Zerker is ok but Bloodthirst is still not worth it (this talent is so sad ;D )
Arms to ms + fury still the best

[mfzmm]

so basically i should just copy indal? :P

[Landogarner]

I agree, thinking for yourself is highly overrated. :roll:

[mfzmm]

sarcasm? no? lol whatever...


thinking for myself at lvl 60 is very hard for me cuz ive never experienced any of the end game quests and dont know what to expect, currently i feel like my build is shitty (i geuss we all do) and am looking for something better.

i also have another question.. why would indal put 5 points into tactical mastery?

[kernel16]

wars = dead

reroll and maybe blizz will get the msg.

[Firecrak]

Already on it kernel....sad, i love my warrior, but ffs what is the point of playing the most gimped class when the damn dev's don't even want to listen.

[Renton]

got my 17 warrior Rentoni, hes still fun cause im not high enough to be pissed.. anyways, heres my template:

Arms Talents (20 points)

Deflection - 5/5 points
Increases your Parry chance by 5%.

Improved Rend - 3/3 points
Increases the bleed damage done by your Rend ability by 35%.

Improved Charge - 2/2 points
Increases the rage generated by your Charge ability by 6.

Tactical Mastery - 3/5 points
You retain up to 15 of your rage points when you change stances.

Improved Overpower - 2/2 points
Increases the critical strike chance of your Overpower ability by 50%.

Deep Wounds - 3/3 points
Your critical strikes cause the opponent to bleed, dealing 60% of your melee weapon's average damage over 12 seconds.

Impale - 2/2 points
Increases the critical strike damage done by your abilities in Battle, Defensive, and Berserker stance by 20%.

Fury Talents (31 points)

Cruelty - 5/5 points
Increases your chance to get a critical strike with melee weapons by 5%.

Improved Demoralizing Shout - 5/5 points
Increases the attack power reduction of your Demoralizing Shout by 25%.

Unbridled Wrath - 3/5 points
Gives you a 24% chance to generate an additional Rage point when you deal melee damage.

Piercing Howl - 1/1 point
Causes all enemies near the warrior to be dazed for 6 seconds.

Blood Craze - 3/3 points
Allows 15% of your Health regeneration to work during combat for 20 seconds after being the victim of a critical strike.

Enrage - 5/5 points
Gives you a 40% melee damage bonus for 4 swings any time you are the victim of a critical strike.

Improved Execute - 2/2 points
Reduces the Rage cost of your Execute ability by 5.

Death Wish - 1/1 point
When activated, increases your melee damage by 20% and makes you immune to fear, but lowers your defense against all types of damage by 20%. Lasts 30 seconds.

Flurry - 5/5 points
Increases your attack speed by 30% for your next 3 swings after dealing a critical strike.

Bloodthirst - 1/1 point
Activates after dealing a killing blow. Your next melee weapon attack deals a 100% increased damage.

Protection Talents (0 points)

None


Please don't say... NO MS?!?! WTF!, or anything like that, im trying a non-ms build, i like the fury talents better than some of the ending ones in arms... P.S. I only get peircing howl cause i hear its a must have.

Thanks,


-Renton

[fer]

If Onyxia hasnt been defeat in a year, maybe then warrior gets unnerfed again.

[keboman]

Maybe I'm alone here, but overall I really like the changes.

edit: I use indal's posted build but with 1 less deflection and anger management.

[Ei]

Bloodthirst - 1/1 point
Activates after dealing a killing blow. Your next melee weapon attack deals a 100% increased damage. Not worth a point !
THis talent is so crappy i cant find words to describe it.
Remorseless attacks is 100 times better and its a tier1 rogue talent SOOOOO SAD

[keboman]

I think they should change it to the next skill that does damage gets a 100% bonus, then it'd be nice ;)

[Ei]

It works already like u said i think
U kill a mob and if u start with ms ur ms will do 100% more dam but its still crap!!
If u kill blackrock orcs in Burning steppes with lvl 60 they will do too much damage cause we dont kill fast enough even with a dps build.
U can kill maybe two in a row then ur low on health.
ANother Bloodthirst improvement :
100% increased damage with ur next attack
and ull get the damage as health points back. SOme kind of lifeleech

[Straem]

I have grouped with Landogarner for many levels. I do not feel warriors are absolute crap. That guy does things that amazes me.

You want to reroll go ahead. However, I am a firm believer the class is only as good as the player behind it. These nerfs ARE ridiculous, but I wouldn't give up if you love your warrior, stay with it. Think about it, The warrior is a staple of the fantasy Genre, how can Blizzard not fix it? What are you going to make? A Rogue? A Shaman? A hunter? These classes seem to get the most whines:/ And we all know what that leads too.

Now I am not flaming anyone who wants to reroll, but consider this...Who will tank for you if there are no warriors? (insert arguments about how a shaman can hold aggro here). It's your dollar I know, play what is fun.

[keboman]

Where are the nerfs? Mortal Strike doesn't take all the rage when it misses now, and the average damage is about the same. This patch IMPROVED the warrior.

[Landogarner]

<3 for my healbot ;)

[Straem]

Stfu and hit stuff Lando!

[Hellhammer]

I agree with Straem. My guild was surprised I wanted to continue playing a warrior after we were all present during the beta nurfs, but I really like playing as a warrior and I will continue to do so.

I believe that warriors take a vast amount of skill (which I am not up to par yet) concerning MMORPGs because there is so much micromanagement that goes into being a warrior. I don't think Blizzard will make any radical changes that will improve warriors all that much.. I am not expecting nor hoping for that.

My current dilemma is whether to go for Flurry or Mortal Strike. The way my current build is heading I can go for Flurry with 3/5 points or just go all the way in arms and get the MS. I hate dilemmas. :(