View Full Version : Troll priests are absolutely worthless...
Trixx
12-17-2004, 02:01 AM
I just noticed, that horde only has 2 races for priests, undead and troll. The undead stats are more geared towards casters (higher int/spirit) and the troll racial traits are geared towards hunters/melee in general. It's no wonder there are so many damn ud's all over the place >_<
Cant say I agree. The startup int/spirit stats does not matter at all lategame, and Berserking : 20 % faster castrate < 20 % hp can be a lifesaver 8)
Miragul
12-17-2004, 02:24 AM
WoF and underwater breathing has a little to do with it as well. People can say that racial traits don't make a difference, but when I can dispel fear and finish off a desperate warlock I'm all for it.
On the Priest end though, I agree, there's no second guessing the reason there are a large number of UD Priests.
They look nifty as hell! 8)
Will of forsaken is good, but not godly for a priest. A sure win for melee tho. Makes me wonder why I see so many Troll Rogues...
iegan
12-17-2004, 05:37 AM
I always create my character for maximum suckage. That way people can't bitch that I'm overpowered.
Plus, troll regen is nice for grinding - I could care less about being immune to fear for 10 seconds every 15 minutes.
It's actually 20 sec every 2 minutes :o, or am I wrong?
Miragul
12-17-2004, 12:40 PM
It's actually 20 sec every 2 minutes :o, or am I wrong?
Correct.
Firecrak
12-17-2004, 02:13 PM
You also forget that...well its tiny but still, the lesser your stats start out (the primaries, int/spi/stam) the less they will be base at 60...the more you can load onto them with items, thus have slightly higher intel/hp/regen than an equal level, equal equiped UD :) Tiny but meh...felt like arguing
I can remember my group getting killed in WC because I was sleeped as a priest. So I will be UD in retail, yes Im from Europe.
iegan
12-17-2004, 03:19 PM
It's actually 20 sec every 2 minutes :o, or am I wrong?
Either way~
Jumai
12-19-2004, 12:13 AM
WoF doesn't work on the sleep they use in WC. You get "can't do that while stunned" it's probably a bug.
thglid5
12-19-2004, 05:19 PM
They look nifty as hell! 8)
Will of forsaken is good, but not godly for a priest. A sure win for melee tho. Makes me wonder why I see so many Troll Rogues...
it's called not every1 is a min/maxer...
Geglash
12-19-2004, 06:26 PM
/* Unless I'm totally off (which I may be since I haven't tested it myself) there is another big difference between UD and trolls when rolling priest*/
Both races get 2 different race unique spells
Trolls get 'Hex of weakness' and 'Shadowguard' while UD get 'Touch of weakness' and 'Devouring plague'. The spells work quite differently and at least devouring plaque looks nice if you spec. shadow tree.
Check them out at: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/spelllist.html?class=Priest (they are lvl 10 and 20 spells)
*edit - spelling*
Straem
12-20-2004, 11:24 AM
Devouring plague is good no matter what. It stacks with your dots and is nice heals
Wyvvy
12-21-2004, 10:22 AM
WoF and underwater breathing has a little to do with it as well. People can say that racial traits don't make a difference, but when I can dispel fear and finish off a desperate warlock I'm all for it.
On the Priest end though, I agree, there's no second guessing the reason there are a large number of UD Priests.
You can't "dispel" fear. WoF is a preemtive defense, you can only do it before fear, charm or sleep is cast. If you are already under the influence of those 3, you are no in control of your character and thus you cannot use WoF.
Thus, it is not as good as it could have been, if you could use it while being under the influence of those effects.
Tivoli
12-21-2004, 11:11 AM
WOF can be used while you are feared to break it, but not the other effects.
Mupod
12-25-2004, 06:16 PM
WoF and underwater breathing has a little to do with it as well. People can say that racial traits don't make a difference, but when I can dispel fear and finish off a desperate warlock I'm all for it.
On the Priest end though, I agree, there's no second guessing the reason there are a large number of UD Priests.
You can't "dispel" fear. WoF is a preemtive defense, you can only do it before fear, charm or sleep is cast. If you are already under the influence of those 3, you are no in control of your character and thus you cannot use WoF.
Thus, it is not as good as it could have been, if you could use it while being under the influence of those effects.
I heard WoF was retroactive for fear
Wyvvy
12-26-2004, 01:17 AM
WoF and underwater breathing has a little to do with it as well. People can say that racial traits don't make a difference, but when I can dispel fear and finish off a desperate warlock I'm all for it.
On the Priest end though, I agree, there's no second guessing the reason there are a large number of UD Priests.
You can't "dispel" fear. WoF is a preemtive defense, you can only do it before fear, charm or sleep is cast. If you are already under the influence of those 3, you are no in control of your character and thus you cannot use WoF.
Thus, it is not as good as it could have been, if you could use it while being under the influence of those effects.
I heard WoF was retroactive for fear
have i been doing something wrong? O.o
It's not just with WoF - Death Wish and Berserker Rage can break fear aswell.
jobanaaa
12-26-2004, 05:15 PM
Are you sure? I was 100% sure, that you have absolutely no control over your char. Have no time to play much, but i'll try to test it out sometime around evening.
Actaully, I WoF when feared all the time. It is retroactive, and I love it.
Da'Grim
12-27-2004, 11:13 AM
I was going for a priest awhile and for a Shadow Specc Priest, Troll can probably be the best race. Their Shadow Guard both count for Blackout and Shadow Weaving, plus it can be thrown in the middle of the combat. Against melee character it also boosts a shadow priests DPS quite a bit.
But the major thing here is offcourse that it counts for Shadow Weaving.
wargh
12-27-2004, 11:48 AM
WoF and underwater breathing has a little to do with it as well. People can say that racial traits don't make a difference, but when I can dispel fear and finish off a desperate warlock I'm all for it.
On the Priest end though, I agree, there's no second guessing the reason there are a large number of UD Priests.
You can't "dispel" fear. WoF is a preemtive defense, you can only do it before fear, charm or sleep is cast. If you are already under the influence of those 3, you are no in control of your character and thus you cannot use WoF.
Thus, it is not as good as it could have been, if you could use it while being under the influence of those effects.
thats plain wrong, i duelled yesterday and could break fear with WoF asfter it was casted on me. i dont know about charm/sleep tho.
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