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Beta-Q
12-13-2004, 01:48 PM
Hi , could somebody tell me what skills should i pick to make good(pvp) pally , because i dont have a clue :oops: well anyways send me some ideas ty

Straem
12-13-2004, 02:04 PM
Absolutely not, Paladins are the devil.

Silth
12-13-2004, 02:34 PM
Asking for PVP Paladin help on the homepage of a huge Hoarde Guild!

Priceless!

Anonymous
12-13-2004, 02:39 PM
;)

Renton
12-13-2004, 02:44 PM
After extensive research, I've found that pallys are actually better without choosing ANY talents. So don't choose any, or you'll regret it.

fer
12-13-2004, 06:14 PM
I heard Eno has plans for pally, so better can't take one. They won't be able to wear plate and heal if it's Eno's call. So watch out.

Setzar
12-13-2004, 07:45 PM
I heard Eno has plans for pally, so better can't take one. They won't be able to wear plate and heal if it's Eno's call. So watch out.

If 'awsome' changes occur:

Only use one handed blunt weapons that aren't maces nor fist-weapons, the off-hand is cut off during the paladin's dedication cerimony

Pallies get cloth (leather at 40(maybe))

100% resistance to healing spells/abilities

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I fear 'awsome' changes

Beta-Q
12-14-2004, 06:27 AM
Asking for PVP Paladin help on the homepage of a huge Hoarde Guild!

Priceless!

erhm.. sry didnt realize :oops: (sry)

Silth
12-14-2004, 08:57 AM
LoL. Np. What server do you play on? I play on Deathwing,and a guy in my guild has a lvl 33 Paladin, so he might be able to offer you some insight.

Tlear
12-14-2004, 10:33 AM
For leveling just spec holy/retribution for best healing(instances) and max dmg output (solo grinding). At 60 just respec

My build for paladin will be a battle healer. Basicly max protection, holy shield, mez improved blessing of freedom etc, holy till the guaranteed crit talent. For equipment everything needs to be int/sta. Unfortunately there is no quest/crafted int/sta equipment so start camping AH early and buy green items. Anyway thats just my template, paladin can be played in many different ways. Unfortunately stupid decision by blizzard to give undead will of forsaken turned alliance priests into unsurvivable fodder, paladin can fill this niche quite well especially if your grp is warrior/hunter heavy (easy to heal) or you can be your typical Judgement of crusader + seal of command spamming dmg dealer (will get nerfed)

Straem
12-14-2004, 12:19 PM
Unfortunately stupid decision by blizzard to give undead will of forsaken turned alliance priests into unsurvivable fodder, paladin can fill this niche quite well especially if your grp is warrior/hunter heavy (easy to heal) or you can be your typical Judgement of crusader + seal of command spamming dmg dealer (will get nerfed)


Will of Foresaken is really overrated.

Tlear
12-14-2004, 05:10 PM
Strem what do you do when alliance rogue pops out and start wailing on you? You spam your scream key hoping to get one in. Against rogue with 3 digit iq alliance priest will shield once then just die. It not really overpowered on classes like priest but on rogue its just wrong.

Ellestar
12-15-2004, 01:57 AM
Don't play paladins, they suck. One paladin said yesterday that he dies so fast to a +3 lvls Mage it isn't fun. Obviously, paladin's defence suck. Also, paladins should get some kind of ranged attack he said. And paladins are underpowered because they don't have a snare to finish fleeing foes. See, it's an opinion of a Paladin, they're just horrible in PvP. So, play a Mage - they own!

dragonboy
12-15-2004, 05:49 AM
Solo , PvE oriented Paladin - using 2h: (in such order)
5 spiritual focus
5 imp. bless of wisdom
1 divine favor

then go retribution, get what you like, for example:
5 bless of might or the other talent
5 2h mastery
5 seal of command
5 vengance
5 deflection
1 consecration
3 precision
5 convinction
1 blessing of kings
protection:
5 improved devotion a.
4 toughness (if you dont like b. of kings get 5)

i have only tested this build till about 40, but it seems good so far

Doodle
12-17-2004, 11:27 PM
Don't play paladins, they suck. One paladin said yesterday that he dies so fast to a +3 lvls Mage it isn't fun. Obviously, paladin's defence suck. Also, paladins should get some kind of ranged attack he said. And paladins are underpowered because they don't have a snare to finish fleeing foes. See, it's an opinion of a Paladin, they're just horrible in PvP. So, play a Mage - they own!

lies

Ellestar
12-19-2004, 01:46 AM
lies
1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
2) I have a MIRC log

Kintoun
12-19-2004, 12:01 PM
Best PVP Pally I've made so far:

If you have any questions please ask. Not really in the mood for explanations. But this is a 2h crusader strike (talent is worthless BTW) pally with consecration.


Holy Talents (8 points)

# Spiritual Focus - 5/5 points
Gives your Flash of Light and Holy Light spells a 70% chance to not lose casting time when you take damage.

# Improved Holy Light - 3/3 points
Increases the amount healed by your Holy Light spell by 12%.



Protection Talents (12 points)

# Improved Devotion Aura - 5/5 points
Increases the armor bonus of your Devotion Aura by 25%.

# Toughness - 5/5 points
Increases your armor value from items by 10%.

# Improved Blessing of Protection - 2/2 points
Reduces the cooldown of your Blessing of Protection by ?.



Retribution Talents (31 points)

# Benediction - 5/5 points
Reduces the Mana cost of your Retribution spells by 15%.

# Two-Handed Weapon Specialization - 5/5 points
Increases the damage you deal with two-handed melee weapons by 5%.

# Vengeance - 5/5 points
Gives you a 15% bonus to Physical and Holy damage you deal for 8 seconds after dealing a critical strike.

# Deflection - 5/5 points
Increases your Parry chance by 5%.

# Anticipation - 1/5 point
Increases your Defense skill by 2.

# Consecration - 1/1 point
Consecrates the land beneath the Paladin, doing 120 Holy damage over 8 seconds to enemies who enter the area.

# Precision - 3/3 points
Increases your chance to hit with melee weapons by 3%.

# Conviction - 5/5 points
Increases your chance to get a critical strike with melee weapons by 5%.

# Blessing of Kings - 1/1 point
Places a Blessing on the friendly target, increasing total stats by 10% for 5 minutes. Players may only have one Blessing on them per Paladin at any one time.

Beta-Q
12-19-2004, 01:01 PM
thank you very much kintoun that is just what i've been waiting for , and hopefully that is a goood paladin

Ei
12-19-2004, 01:17 PM
Theere is no way to make a bad paladin ! ;)

Beta-Q
12-19-2004, 01:37 PM
:D

Straem
12-20-2004, 09:51 AM
I have to say I still hate paladins. Only class I never leave alone. If I see one I always try to kill it, No matter what the level.

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