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register1020
12-07-2004, 05:33 AM
didn't know where else to post regarding this.. a couple things seem to be off.. no thistle tea slot on my rogue.. still mana pot. Water slot shows 89 water or 189 sometimes. No second bar as there was in that screenshot. If someone could tell me how to add that in myself I'll do it.

DPS calculator was a blessing though.
The whole thing looks gorgeous. =)

Thanks for all your work Tivoli =)

poser
12-07-2004, 06:15 AM
I have to say that I liked the old style better.
Any possibility that we will get the option to have the xp bar and the graphics around the buttons as it was before?
I also have to ask the purpose of the bars that i have marked out in this picture: http://poser.niggepeh.dk/wow.screencap02.jpg

Great work on the UI.

Tivoli
12-07-2004, 07:47 AM
Delete the textstatusbar.lua you have in there and that will show the HP/MP numbers correctly.

Hmm, not sure why it's not showing Thistle Tea, i will check into that, it's going to be updated throughout today, so look for some changes here soon ^^.

Anonymous
12-07-2004, 09:36 AM
Hm after i saw this http://poser.niggepeh.dk/wow.screencap02.jpg i dont think ill use ur UI anymore :/ !

Doodle
12-07-2004, 09:39 AM
whats up with the bottom bar :shock:

screen looks so ugly again :cry:

Anonymous
12-07-2004, 09:43 AM
yes how to turn that style off ? i want the original style for the main bar !

poser
12-07-2004, 12:37 PM
Delete the textstatusbar.lua you have in there and that will show the HP/MP numbers correctly.

Do you really need the extra HP/MP numbers since you have them in the bars? What do you use the HP % stats for ? And do you think you will make a option to turn on the old style mainbar ?

Im sorry if I sound like a whining bitch but I just want to give some feeedback from my experience with the UI

Tivoli
12-07-2004, 12:54 PM
Trolls can easily see when they can activate berserk

Human and Dwarf priests can see when they can activate their instant heal

As a priest it makes it easier to see how many heals i have till i am OOM, and comparing my regen i can easily see how long till i have another heal.

It just makes it easier to see exactly when abilities or spells can be used as opposed to just guesstimating.

poser
12-07-2004, 01:06 PM
OK, then I understand the point of the %.

DAT64X
12-07-2004, 01:06 PM
I know you put in a lot of work into this new UI, but the fact is, I don't really like it. What attracted me to the Nurfed UI over stuff like Cosmos and CTMod was that the Nurfed UI was simplistic and sleek. It added only the features that were needed to enhance the default UI and no more than that. Tivoli, I am afraid that your new UI is now suffering from "Feature Bloat", and if that's the case, I rather just use Cosmos instead.

That having been said, here is what I like about the new UI:
- The side doesn't block the durability icon anymore. At least I don't think it does.
- The new "default DPS" stats are really nice.
- Racial ability icon is good.

Here is what's wrong with the new UI:
- I want the default grey bottom UI bar back. There was nothing wrong with it. The extra transparency doesn't help at all in battle....unless for some reason you think being able to see more of the ground is important. And other stuff, like moving the lag meter up to the map. Why the heck did you do that, there was nothing wrong with it before. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. You just end up weirding everybody out without providing any solid benefits.
- The new glorified self portrait is overkill. It's hogging up screen space and it doesn't even look all that cool. The % thing you mentioned is useful, but couldn't that be easily added using only minimal additional screenspace instead of the huge oversized portrait that you have now? I mean just look at it, the extra column with the # and % is almost as big as the default portrait health/mana bars!
- You no longer see buff and debuff icons on your party members' portraits. This is horrible.
- I use Simple Interface option, which means the combat log is displayed the bottom right of the screen. Even with your last UI release, your new Hearthstone/Bandages/Potions icons blocked the last few lines of the combat log. This is incredibly annoying. I'm guessing you probably don't use Simple Interface and have the combat log still tucked behind your general chat log, but I really hope this can get fixed.


There's nothing worse than Feature Bloat than Feature Bloat with useless features. I hope that you're able to take some of these considerations in mind for your next release.

poser
12-07-2004, 01:10 PM
DAT64X: You pretty much said what I was trying to say just alot better. :)

Tivoli
12-07-2004, 01:59 PM
I'm not sure why you wouldn't be able to see party buffs and debuffs, that frame didn't change at all in this version.

The reason i took out all the graphics for the mainbar was basically for 1 i was tired of looking at the same graphics, and second, i just plain didn't like them ;).

Everything can and will be adjusted, this is probably the final feature set, so nothing else will really be added, just the current items tweaked and changed and an options menu, that's about all, i could probably put in a / command to change it back and forth fairly quickly.

There should be an updated version tonight as well. UI's are a touchy thing, some people love it and others hate it, but they are never completed, there are always changes and updates to better the UI, and i hope to be going in that direction over the long run.

poser
12-07-2004, 02:02 PM
Everything can and will be adjusted, this is probably the final feature set, so nothing else will really be added, just the current items tweaked and changed and an options menu, that's about all, i could probably put in a / command to change it back and forth fairly quickly.

Sounds great, keep up the good work!

Hogart
12-07-2004, 02:04 PM
- I use Simple Interface option, which means the combat log is displayed the bottom right of the screen. Even with your last UI release, your new Hearthstone/Bandages/Potions icons blocked the last few lines of the combat log. This is incredibly annoying. I'm guessing you probably don't use Simple Interface and have the combat log still tucked behind your general chat log, but I really hope this can get fixed.

Okey, why dont you just move your text window up 0.5mm?

Alador
12-07-2004, 03:05 PM
Is the AutoBar on the list of things to be fixed or should I not hold my breath? :(

Tivoli
12-07-2004, 03:28 PM
Everything that doesn't work correctly is always on the list to be fixed ;).

Mad
12-07-2004, 04:15 PM
haha yeah, I'm having a bit of trouble with the water counter, it mostly hovers around the 1500 mark, sometimes its jumping to 2500+ and othertimes down to 1 :cry:

antione
12-08-2004, 12:18 AM
is the new UI supposed to look like it does in http://poser.niggepeh.dk/wow.screencap02.jpg ? cuz mine looks nothing like that.. it just looks like the old version but with the 2 sidebar slots are filled in and now there is the button lock and the DPS indicator thing... is something wrong with mine? :o

Hogart
12-08-2004, 03:13 AM
My UI looks like that, but I would really much have it like you do, as it is supposed to look. Why is the right bar bugged? 3 slots free, one of them down at the auto-bar etc. Any way to fix it yourself?

bottledcoke
12-08-2004, 04:17 AM
is the new UI supposed to look like it does in http://poser.niggepeh.dk/wow.screencap02.jpg ? cuz mine looks nothing like that.. it just looks like the old version but with the 2 sidebar slots are filled in and now there is the button lock and the DPS indicator thing... is something wrong with mine? :o
same here. i downloaded mine from the main page and it look just like the old one with few new additions.

littlejayy
12-08-2004, 05:31 AM
is the new UI supposed to look like it does in http://poser.niggepeh.dk/wow.screencap02.jpg ? cuz mine looks nothing like that.. it just looks like the old version but with the 2 sidebar slots are filled in and now there is the button lock and the DPS indicator thing... is something wrong with mine? :o


yup same thing to me ? is it sopsoe to look like that or what ??? or do we need
a program to read the files or w.e

Silth
12-08-2004, 06:33 AM
He released one ui, and it looked similar to that screenshot. I downloaded it. And then later the same day, a new ui was released and looks like the old with some filled in stuff.

Personaly I like the latest release. I like having the graphics stay primarily the same.

In any case I love Tivoli's work. As he stated this is pretty much the final ui feature set.

Now he will iron out the few bugs with it, and maybe add some /command like he stated that will let you change graphic styles.

Goodwork Tivoli!

agamenon
12-08-2004, 08:59 AM
why cant you add a normal hotbar and then 2 more above them like cosmos have its really important i think with all the skills

Dendriath
12-08-2004, 09:22 AM
why cant you add a normal hotbar and then 2 more above them like cosmos have its really important i think with all the skills

Why can't you search and down one of the trillion 'just 1 bar' mods that are already there?

Tivoli
12-08-2004, 09:31 AM
why cant you add a normal hotbar and then 2 more above them like cosmos have its really important i think with all the skills

I don't want this UI to be like cosmos, i want it to be better for the users that use it, that being said once i get my menu setup there will be an option to enable a second bar, but for now there isn't because there are just as many people that don't want a second bar, and there are several UI addons that will add the second bar for you.

Anonymous
12-08-2004, 09:40 AM
thx tiv ur work is great ! and the point about the UI is u should like it :) ! If its perfect for u the most people will be happy with it :)
1 suggestion
Add a online readme with pics and installation instructions. :)
So everyone knows what the UI features are ;).

Tivoli
12-08-2004, 11:04 AM
I keep saying i will setup a page for it, but i get lazy and want to play more WoW, even though it would probably take less time for me to make the page than it takes to update the UI.

Anonymous
12-08-2004, 11:34 AM
;) ! Yea playing is more important now :) we want to see lvl 60 asskickin :)

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