Warrior, why not death grips?

[Nozerac]

All decked dps warriors seems to favor stronghold gauntlets, but why? Is it just me or is 22 str not better than 120 hp, 1 parry and 1 crit? Not to mention it's easy as shit to get as well. Is there some kind of math behind this? Am I underestimating parry in pvp? Is it because of it's purple color? Enlighten me please. =)

[dr_AllCOM3]

you are underestimating 120hp and 1%crit

[Nozerac]

How much AP is a crit worth, roughly? How do you PvP guys prioritize AP vs crit?

EDIT* 120 hp doesn't feel that hot imo. When I watch dps warriors profiles I oftentimes see +8 str on head/leg slot, that means I can put 100 hp on them, and get 80 more HP and 12 more AP and just losing out on the crit by having deathgrips instead of stronghold.

[khan3817]

you are underestimating 120hp and 1%crit

And you are forgetting +1% parry.

[Soulless]

The Purple color.

[keboman]

They are better than Strongholds for DPS and a little bit better overall for PVP IMO. But Strongholds you can just buy or farm.

[Soruss]

imho 32 stat points + parry > 22 stat points.

[Blu]

your charakter looks great, soruss.

[Soruss]

your charakter looks great, soruss.

I don't actually have exalted in AB or zin'rokh... :oops:

Eventually though ;p

[Blu]

i don't have flameguards either :(

but i love the looks!

[Soruss]

i don't have flameguards either :(

but i love the looks!

I can't see your avatar :(

[Blu]

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/8391/blurio0jn.gif

now?


arrr, two laughing gnomes, this drives me crazy 8)

[Soruss]

No :(

[KingKapalone]

I can

[cian]

even though this thread has been hijacked, i cant believe no one posted the real anwer to the thread question:

because they're blue.

[Nozerac]

even though this thread has been hijacked, i cant believe no one posted the real anwer to the thread question:

because they're blue.

As I suspected. :P

[Soruss]

even though this thread has been hijacked, i cant believe no one posted the real anwer to the thread question:

because they're blue.

The Purple color. (referring to strongholds)

Cian was beaten to the sarcastic answer, literacy would have helped save face :\

Back on topic however...

You guys are getting too single minded, warriors don't require only one stat. It's just like how a majority of the warrior community used to prefer crit to all else, now people seem to be taking Uro's AP love a little too far.

Also, as far as the librams go, last time I checked people sell voracity for a lot less than constitution.

[HellCry]

Me myself I go for the best sustained dmg with dps gear. For PvP i want slightly more hp and not go below 25% crit in zerker. Calculating how much AP 1% crit is worth is very simple. The answer, depending on your current AP/crit, often suprises ppl. 30 AP will almost always give you more sustained dmg then 1%crit.

[uro]

You guys are getting too single minded, warriors don't require only one stat. It's just like how a majority of the warrior community used to prefer crit to all else, now people seem to be taking Uro's AP love a little too far.



I dunno why everyone says im so focused on AP.... i look at the big picture. Shit, i have almost 29% crit in zerk, with a sword. Im not Blackened :P.

[arch]

Lies.

[uro]

28.5, and as soon as i hit 13, i get the BP, and im putting my flameguards back on :)

[arch]

Giev >,<.

[Soruss]

Me myself I go for the best sustained dmg with dps gear. For PvP i want slightly more hp and not go below 25% crit in zerker. Calculating how much AP 1% crit is worth is very simple. The answer, depending on your current AP/crit, often suprises ppl. 30 AP will almost always give you more sustained dmg then 1%crit.

I don't know where you get that number. I think it's pretty well known that str > agi for dps, but I don't think it's by that much.

You also have to realize that as your damage increases, crit will gradually give more and more sustained DPS, theoretically it would eventually surpass AP.

Also, impale and deepwounds aren't something to forget. Crit gets more benefit from both of these over AP (however the disparity diminishes as well as you get higher crit).

MS takes advantage of all these points, because it gives 160 more damage and when it crits, it gets the added damage from impale and causes a deep wound.

Take someone with end game gear, and compare how beneficial crit and AP are to MS, and I think you'll find they're pretty damn close. Defenitely close enough to take 1% crit, 120 sta, 1% parry over just 22str.

[Soruss]

You guys are getting too single minded, warriors don't require only one stat. It's just like how a majority of the warrior community used to prefer crit to all else, now people seem to be taking Uro's AP love a little too far.

I dunno why everyone says im so focused on AP.... i look at the big picture. Shit, i have almost 29% crit in zerk, with a sword. Im not Blackened :P.

You're the most vocal nurfed warrior and you've consistantly said str > agi/sta.

[Vask]

str/agi > sta :D

[uro]

str/agi > sta :D

THATS what i said ;). Lately i had just been focusing more on AP because i had high crit but low AP. Theyre evenly important. Can't have 1 without the other.

[Soruss]

str/agi > sta :D

THATS what i said ;). Lately i had just been focusing more on AP because i had high crit but low AP. Theyre evenly important. Can't have 1 without the other.

Yar, excuse me for not writing down your exact opinion :\