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rjah
11-25-2004, 12:40 AM
Qiuestion for Nurfed, and anyone else who did this instance on release.

Did you notice the distinct LACK of blue items? We did the instance, and 3 blues droppped. The cloak from Skrum (the lizard), the shaman shield from Verdan The Everliving, and I think the cloth shoulders that regen health from the final boss.

The first boss dropped WHITE leather shoulder pads, the second dropped a random green item, the third dropped a green 'of the fang' chest piece.

Was this normal for everyone? I am worried that the loot tables were changed for release. My friend was looking forwards to the Blue Mace in ther (which I currently forget the name of).... but by the looks of it there might have been a serious cutback on the ammount of blues.


As an aside our group was level 20-21 when we did this (I know we did it late we had to catch some people up). Perhaps it was level based (I know that sounds retarded.... I am just trying to understand).

So post your experience/ what you got.

Stabface
11-25-2004, 12:55 AM
i think like all but 2 'bosses' have blue drops. the blues that do drop are usually pretty damn good. do the instance 3-4 times (avoid lag, get experience) and you'll all most likely be decked out in some major phat lewt.

http://www.thottbot.com/beta.cgi?f=n&pl=on&zones=87

rjah
11-25-2004, 02:07 AM
i think like all but 2 'bosses' have blue drops. the blues that do drop are usually pretty damn good. do the instance 3-4 times (avoid lag, get experience) and you'll all most likely be decked out in some major phat lewt.

http://www.thottbot.com/beta.cgi?f=n&pl=on&zones=87

Oh I know the USED to have almost all blue drops, I have farmed WC before. What I am saying is that I have never seen such a string of shit drops from bosses. I hope it was just an unlucky run, but I was hoping others could post some of the loot they have gotten as well.

BTW I chatted with 1 other group who went through, they had blues from the same 3 bosses we did, and none from the others. Once again has anyone seen a blue drop from the first second or third boss in there since release?

Anonymous
11-25-2004, 07:59 AM
Its not worth the time to do WC more then just 1 or 2 times to finish the quests there ? (IMO)

Jinsai
11-25-2004, 08:01 AM
Hm who is dumb enough to do WC more then just 1 or 2 times to finish the quests there ?

It's called exp and items?

Anonymous
11-25-2004, 08:13 AM
yes i forgot that ! WC has Uber lewts sry
SM is the first instance that is worth to farm 4+ times for some items
Doan staff,Dagger
Mail stuff for Sham,Hunt
Whitemanes Head,Mace,Amu
Mograines SHield,Mace

After WC there is SFK,RFK, Gnomeregan Blackfathom Deeps etc

Jinsai
11-25-2004, 08:28 AM
yes i forgot that ! WC has Uber lewts sry
SM is the first instance that is worth to farm 4+ times for some items
Doan staff,Dagger
Mail stuff for Sham,Hunt
Whitemanes Head,Mace,Amu
Mograines SHield,Mace

After WC there is SFK,RFK, Gnomeregan Blackfathom Deeps etc

If you're trying to make the case there's higher instances to farm.. then no shit Captain Obvious. That doesn't make WC any less of a instance with items and xp in it for lower levels.

I'm very sorry if other people's opinions doesn't fit into your well-thought out guildines of which instances are worth doing more than once and which ones aren't. I'm sure at some point in life you'll get over this. Then again maybe you won't and you'll end up ending your life in suicide at an early age.

Straem
11-25-2004, 08:47 AM
Some people enjoy running instances. It is especially challenging at lower levels. If they are tired of running quests over and over, they could farm WC out of pure change of pace.

It makes you need a group, removes the soloing portion of the game. Has some rewards that the quest doesn't. Allows you to hang with friends and bitch about the lag at looting.

I know in CB when I played alliance, I would do Van Cleef over and over to farm Linen and Wool hell I would do it just to show people the instance for the first time.

Think of how great it is for green items to disenchant?

Anonymous
11-25-2004, 08:55 AM
Hm I mean for 90% of the items from wc etc ull get an upgrade in the next 5 lvls anyway from quests or world drops !#


Btw i just think its not worth the time to farm a <30 instance for a special item more then 2-3times
I love all the lower instances imo the most are better then the higher ones.
Ive done SFK for a friend like 5 times in a row to get arugals robe and belt and it was fun.
And its much more fun with 5 low lvl players to beat VC the first time.

Straem
11-25-2004, 09:52 AM
Oh Gille, that makes sense. Yes lower levels your eq changes so quickly, its sort of redundant to go farming. But There is still much excitement in getting your first fancy staff with a nice graphic.

Or helping a friend get said staff cause he is jealous of yours!

I know in beta when Tortoise armor was bugged (450 armor with no armor type at level 21) I farmed them for everyone I knew. That was in BFD.

Anonymous
11-25-2004, 09:59 AM
I agree with u its great to get the first blue items that give ur char a real buff.
TO the tread starter Ive done Wc three times during the ST with my shaman and yes with some badluck the drops are crappy but on the second run we got 4 blue drops ( http://www.thottbot.com/beta.cgi?i=2801 , http://www.thottbot.com/beta.cgi?i=3359 , http://www.thottbot.com/beta.cgi?i=2947 , http://www.thottbot.com/beta.cgi?i=2506 )

rjah
11-25-2004, 01:51 PM
I agree with u its great to get the first blue items that give ur char a real buff.
TO the tread starter Ive done Wc three times during the ST with my shaman and yes with some badluck the drops are crappy but on the second run we got 4 blue drops ( http://www.thottbot.com/beta.cgi?i=2801 , http://www.thottbot.com/beta.cgi?i=3359 , http://www.thottbot.com/beta.cgi?i=2947 , http://www.thottbot.com/beta.cgi?i=2506 )

Yeah you are getting blue loot off of the same mobs we did. This is still leading me to believe that the first 2-3 Bosses in there no longer drop blues... Lame.

As for why I farm instances, loot is part of it, but moreso EXP. You get bonus exp for being grouped and farming exp in isntances. There is a constant supply of mobs to kill, and no competition for first hit vs another group. It is generally great exp, and can equal or better quest exp. As an aside one of the things I sometimes do is to complete my entire quest log and then go into the instance. Farm it for 2-3 levels, then go out and cash in all of my quests. As long as a quest is green you still get the full exp for completing it. This generally gives you a significant boost to your exp bar.

As a second aside I might be crazy but I think they have toned down the WC isntance. I swear there were less mobs in there. When the servers go back up I plan on farming SFK anyway though so meh.

So no one has gotten a blue drop off of one of the first 3 bosses in WC yet? =/

MrO
11-25-2004, 01:54 PM
I wish the Deadmines had more blue drops... We did them this morning at like 2am and there weren't many blues... I got a blue blouse from Vancleef and a blue wand from Cookie. Needless to say, we got like 20 greens per run (did it twice with our second group of 18+ characters).

Our enchanter was happy as was my bank roll. Starting over is sort of fun in a way. Getting to revisit all these instances is nice. VanCleef talks (as do most bosses now).

Stabface
11-25-2004, 03:13 PM
did you even read my post?

thottbot shows the loot tables of the mobs

some of them don't have blue drops, and NEVER DID

stop whining

rjah
11-25-2004, 04:15 PM
did you even read my post?

thottbot shows the loot tables of the mobs

some of them don't have blue drops, and NEVER DID

stop whining

Whoa take a step back there son. No need to yell.

Bohan:
Bohan's Fang - blue axe

Lord Cobrahn:
Cobrahn's Grasp - blue belt
Leggins of the Fang - Blue leggings

Lord Pythas:
Stinging Viper - Blue Mace

Lord Serpentis:
Venomstrike - Blue bow

Mutanus the Devourer:
Deepfathom Ring - blue ring
Mutant Scale Breastplate - blue armor
Slime Encrusted Pads - blue shoulders

Skum:
Glowing Lizardscale Cloak - Blue Cloak

Trigore the Lasher:
Serpent's Kiss - Blue axe

Verdan The Everliving:
Living Root - Blue staff
Seedcloud Buckler - Blue shield


Those are all of the bosses & minis in the instance. I got that information by follwoing your link to Thottbot. Normally I would see most of these guys drops blues in a run. Barely half of them did when I ran it this time though. That was the reason I was asking if the loot tables might have been changed. They do not have to send us an update or patch to change loot tables. Loot tables are server only.

You in WoW withdrawl again Stabby? Getting rather onery.

Anonymous
11-25-2004, 05:08 PM
i think stabface was talking to mrQ about deadmine loot tables.
Deadmine loot tables suck imo (only VC is nice)

Straem
11-26-2004, 08:41 AM
STABFACE IS ONERY CAUSE OF MEDULA OBLANGATTA!!!!

evilution
11-26-2004, 09:30 AM
i am ornray because i am bored

Mupod
11-26-2004, 09:59 AM
Any of you guys know what the set bonus for the 'of the fang' armor is? It's been bugging the hell out of me and nobody seems to know.

Straem
11-26-2004, 10:05 AM
Look it up on allakhazam I think Its there.

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