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Selm
11-22-2004, 04:38 PM
Wanted Feedback on this build for a caller if any of you have experience with Paladins, I am aware you are going horde.

Retribution Mastery
Improved Blessing of Might Rank 5
Two-Handed Weapon Specialization Rank 5
Deflection Rank 5
Retribution Total: 15

Holy Mastery
Improved Lay on Hands Rank 2
Spiritual Focus Rank 5
Improved Blessing of Wisdom Rank 5
Improved Seal of Righteousness Rank 5
Improved Concentration Aura Rank 3
Divine Wisdom Rank 5
Sanctity Aura Rank 1
Divine Strength Rank 5
Holy Shock Rank 1
Holy Total: 32

Protection Mastery
Improved Devotion Aura Rank 4
Protection Total: 4

Total Points Spent: 51
Level Required: 60

ShackR
11-22-2004, 05:09 PM
yeah nice question its a horde guild the only thing they care about paladins is that they get owned in battlefields :P anywayz i cant imagine that somebody gonna give a normal response and a good build so search a alliance forum ^_^

Doodle
11-22-2004, 05:55 PM
i will :) becuse im alliance and teh only reason im here is becuse of the like minded pvpers, dont care about faction :)

as a pally i would forget holy, and go full retribution only skills i would go for in holy would be the 70% chance of no interuption, better heal, and 20 min time reduction on LoH, the rest i would put all in restoration, though holy shock is a very sexy spell, imo its not sexy enough :P

kernel16
11-22-2004, 05:56 PM
my 2h dps paly build b4 i deleted him:

Retribution: 35

Benediction 5/5
Improved Seal Of The Crusader: 5/5
Vengence: 5/5
Deflection: 5/5
Precision: 3/3
Seal OF Command: 1/1
ConvictionL 5/5
Blessing Of Kings: 1/1

Holy: 16

Improved Hly Light: 3/3
Spiritual Focus: 4/5
Illumination: 5/5
Improved Flash of Light: 3/3
Devine Favor: 1/1

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To comment on your build:

Improved Lay on Hands, is a waste, you can only use this skils so few few often hence wasting any points in it is useless. Plus it only lasts 1min...

Another thing i have noticed are your points that you wasted in 2h, from your holy dominent build i can tell you for a fact that you would be better suited to use a 1h/shield, hence puting anything in 2h and even using a 2h would be a waste.

Also with your dominent holy build i doubt youll be using devotion aura much, you think you might but you wont. So also puting points in it is useless, and since you can heal way better your your normal defense from equip it self is mroe then enaugh.

Also sense your main role with this paly would be heavly as a support healer, devine str wont be that much of a help to you.

Also why didnt you take improved flash of light? Or devine favor...

Ill be frank with you, even for a support healer this build wont cut it, this build is all spread around and not rly effective for anything.

JonChron
11-22-2004, 05:57 PM
Retribution is the only way for a paladin to do real damage.

Doodle
11-22-2004, 06:11 PM
kernel im curious why did you delete him :o

im sorta stuck between pally and warrior, and with warriors beeing so strange atm i thought going pally insted, did he not cut it in the high end game?

kernel16
11-22-2004, 06:19 PM
kernel im curious why did you delete him :o

im sorta stuck between pally and warrior, and with warriors beeing so strange atm i thought going pally insted, did he not cut it in the high end game?

Well to me the paly was all strange to me as well after patch, also he was greatly reduced in power (dps wise) and completly turned into a support class, if i were to even think about going dps, i would have no luck with any raid partys.

Another thing that turns me off about the enw paly is most of his skills and dmg are all based on luck, unlike b4 where you could plan things out now it all depends about your procs of your seals, only a few of them have direct dmg causing release but its not enaugh, the way i can put it is, the current paly playstyle as far as killing ppl does is so slow paste it doesnt keep up witht he fast paced of wow pvp action, but more in the lines of pve... which i hate, so to be effective in pvp as well youd have to be a support class which i hate. Plus ugh its beyond boering now, b4 at least there was some fun in it and you were always hoping for talents but now ugh nvm.

Selm
11-22-2004, 06:24 PM
thx for the input i appreciate it

Doodle
11-22-2004, 07:50 PM
kinda liked seal of command until it got nurfed, but we dont have so much choice here for melee its either the warrior who imo needs lots of help atm or the paladin

and seeing how the warriors works atm i think i rather go paladin even if its all dependend on procs.. hopinf ro a quick pre-retail launch fix to the rage cost of mortal strike or anything that would help the warrior class :evil:

or maybe god forbid, roll a mage :(

Doodle
11-22-2004, 07:52 PM
ofcourse i only had experience with a lvl 25 warrior and he was not rlly something you would call uber.. does this change when you hit 60? get good gear and stuff? heard mortal strike also got nurfed... is it worth going warrior over your pally? see in your sig you are set for undead warrior :P

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