The end of a perfect central server

[Tyrul]

Thanks to DIE :(
http://www.die-guild.org/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2267
Looks like we have to find a new one...or stick to owning die. I prefer to stay as far away from them as possible :(

[Zaknafien]

Come on, you know youll want some comic relief.

[Adinion]

Well I can tell you, from the list of guilds on that central server on horde, I don't think Alliance will ever stand a chance. You should look at it as a positive thing, maybe you guys and other clans can shut them up once and for all?

[suisydl]

Nope, then the Alliance peeps will just say that Horde is overpowered and cry nerf, not taking into account the actual skill of the person behind the toon.

[Jumbled]

i love how Grayrage says they will own any horde guild. He should edit his post to include as long as the numbers favor alliance 4 to 1. Man he could really be a strong canidate in the biggest douche in the universe award... yeah southpark!

[Adinion]

Talked to my guildleader about die going central and stuff, and all those clans. Made our decision to go Pacific, although I would love to fight against die, but I really don't want to deal with how pathetic their leader is. We also want to avoid the lag, since I normally get 200 ping to central, and 50 to west, so maybe some of you will go pacific :D.

[Scorch]

Oh jeez :?

Not looking forward to that.

[demon-surge]

Well I like the way Horde is stacked, but I would rather DiE not be on our side.

[JHutch2k]

I was alliance in CB and decided to roll horde due to the fact that I'd rather tk die (if it could be done) then fight beside them. I can't remember how many times I told grayrage to shut the hell up in hillsbrad because he enjoys barking orders at everyone outside his guild as well. In fact I believe I made there blacklist on there website for awhile, lol. Oh well at least they won't be tainting the pacific servers.

p.s. kiledear if i ever play with you I will give you money "get off our server you nuthugger" haha...golden.

[Stabface]

Er, is DIE going Alliance on that server? or Horde?

I assume Alliance since he said "own any Horde guild", but uh, what?

[Tyrul]

ya it might actually prove to weild some satisfaction. Who knows.

And yes alliance, grays been set on alliance since day 1

[alcaras]

Excellent, I will get the pleasure of slaughtering DIE in retail!

[Stabface]

Oh thank god. Not *that* bad, then. At least they'll add to the alliance population, since it appears to be lacking, at least from the guild list.


..not like DIE brings anything to the table.

[demon-surge]

JoW just changed to alliance as well to try to even the odds.

They are a decently organized guild, but are fun to fight.

And DiE is alliance for sure. Would be nice if goon squad went to horde on central as well, cause it would be the anti DiE.

[Mupod]

I was on Test 4 for Open Beta...all DIE ever did was attack people in Hillsbrad over and over and over. But without a bunch of level 60s, there wasn't much they could do but run away.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/Mupod/poordie.jpg

[Wyvvy]

i still got pix of them pwned in 5v5 and 2v2 =p

[Quies]

Would be nice if goon squad went to horde on central as well, cause it would be the anti DiE.

Sadly, pretty unlikely.

Most of the GS leadership wants to go on a smaller server, so they can be the big fish in the small pond, and take over that particular server. Fingers crossed though, a lot of the members would rather fight against the big names to have better competition.

[demon-surge]

Yeah I see goon squad as more of a 'we want to dominate' guild than a 'we want pvp' guild, but I dont really know them all that well.

DiE I see on a large scale pvp fight as something that will disorganize and be more of a hinderance.

Im really wanting 5 vs 5's to 30's vs 30's, but I do understand there will be times when things snowball, people being in the same area and all, and the less people you have running around like chickens with their heads cut off the better. Theres some guilds you can end up running into thats on your side that you can almost perfectly get into synch and fight with if need be due to understanding and grasping of situations and playstyles / support, and guilds that are more solo based players in group situations that do the inevitable and fall apart.

I just hope that if you go red to both factions, you can attack them both in contested areas, not having to have your faction attack you first. Seems like if things start getting too annoying, that will be the way to get the most crazy pvp and be able to really keep things going.

[Lord BEEF]

Yeah I see goon squad as more of a 'we want to dominate' guild than a 'we want pvp' guild, but I dont really know them all that well.



Well here's the thing. The only thing Goon Squad really has in common between all of the members is that we read the same comedy web site and not all of us are complete morons. We've got an estimate of about 400-800 people that will join us initially for retail.

While it'd be fun to fight a lot of the same people we did in beta, we'd rather do it without the help of too many other big name pvp guilds. I don't mean to take anything away from you guys as I have the utmost respect for you, it's just that if we have that many people and we can't win without the help of other guilds we'd be pretty damn sorry. We want to be able to stand on our own merits. We'd love to have big alliance guilds face us though and I hope they don't all try to be on the "first" central server.

The other thing is lag. Personally I think having every major pvp guild trying to be on the same server is a bad idea because of this. I don't want to be in a situation where I find myself saying "oh man just 130 more people in front of me. In 10 minutes I'll be able to log in and pvp!". I don't know how likely this will be in retail, but if it happens goons will make this far worse just due to our numbers.

[Quies]

I just hope that if you go red to both factions, you can attack them both in contested areas, not having to have your faction attack you first.

Haha, half the server would be red in a week if this was the case.

[MadMan]

Due to the fact that the server that everyone is "agreeing" on Dread Guard will just choose a central server that is last alphabetically at midnight on monday. If we land on the same server then great guys if not then I'm glad we all had alpha and beta together. I wish you all the best of luck and may the WoW gods smile upon you.

[demon-surge]

Yeah I see goon squad as more of a 'we want to dominate' guild than a 'we want pvp' guild, but I dont really know them all that well.



Well here's the thing. The only thing Goon Squad really has in common between all of the members is that we read the same comedy web site and not all of us are complete morons. We've got an estimate of about 400-800 people that will join us initially for retail.

While it'd be fun to fight a lot of the same people we did in beta, we'd rather do it without the help of too many other big name pvp guilds. I don't mean to take anything away from you guys as I have the utmost respect for you, it's just that if we have that many people and we can't win without the help of other guilds we'd be pretty damn sorry. We want to be able to stand on our own merits. We'd love to have big alliance guilds face us though and I hope they don't all try to be on the "first" central server.

The other thing is lag. Personally I think having every major pvp guild trying to be on the same server is a bad idea because of this. I don't want to be in a situation where I find myself saying "oh man just 130 more people in front of me. In 10 minutes I'll be able to log in and pvp!". I don't know how likely this will be in retail, but if it happens goons will make this far worse just due to our numbers.

I dont really agree with this comment, but I can understand the viewpoint. Take the alliance side, I respect TFA for thier abilities, but I in no way want to fight alongside them, because both our guilds prefer to be on our own feet, and make names for ourselves, by ourselves.

Therse a difference between being on a server and having help, or being on a server that attracts other pvpers. Fact is, with a lot of PvP guilds, My group of 30 can run out, and fight Nurfed's group by themselves, find LoD's group, find any group and be able to fight.

You could successfully fight by yourself and make a name fighting to be better than the other guilds in status and effectiveness, at all times being by yourself.

Im pretty psyched if organized, closed guilds come on either side. Not only will I be fighting to win, but to win in multiple ways against good guilds that will give me a run for my money.

[Qool]

I don't think it's accurate to say that these 10 or so pvp guilds and their followers are going to lag out an entire server.

I may be wrong, but i'd think a few hundred are just a drop in the bucket.

[demon-surge]

Well most of the organized guilds I know are looking at around 15-40 people online at a time, not really 200-300 each or anything as bloated or crazy as that.

I really dont think it would lag the server that badly because honestly, most people out there arent part of a PvP community or even going to know what guilds are what or join a server just because some organized guilds want to fight each other. I think it will work out pretty good.

[Jinsai]

Not even to mention if all these guild are joining the same server.. they're all dedicated to that server. If it starts to lag and get a reputation as a bad server to start on, they won't be the ones leaving. Instead people who weren't in beta or read forums whatsoever will just pick a different server, and we'll end up with a server with normal lag chock full of good PvPers.

Really with so many factors I don't see lag being a issue.. if it is it will be server-wide, not because certain guild picked one server.

Hell if you take a look at the list of guilds who picked this server, that's what like .05% of the total guilds that will end up on that server?

[Hemlock]

I think it is a mistake to assume that the best PvP will come from CB people. While in the begining this will be true, the learning curve isnt that great and by the time people are capped i am certain that there will be a tremendous amount of talent out there that never participated in Beta or even read the boards. To think otherwise, imo, is a somewhat elitist point of view. That being said, ill see you all in Central , first server :P.

[JHutch2k]

I think it is a mistake to assume that the best PvP will come from CB people. While in the begining this will be true, the learning curve isnt that great and by the time people are capped i am certain that there will be a tremendous amount of talent out there that never participated in Beta or even read the boards. To think otherwise, imo, is a somewhat elitist point of view. That being said, ill see you all in Central , first server :P.

die is a living example of cb players sucking

[Maule]

I would like to say this with as much respect (to Nurfed) as I can. Why exactly would you want someone such as Rokannis who was booted from 2 different guilds in Closed Beta (Blood Legion and DIE) joining your guild? Whatever you think of DIE the mere aspect of being booted from 2 different guilds should speak to the kind of person he is. While Im not going to speak to Rokannis's skill as a player he is a cancer to a team. He doesn't listen to directions, does whatever he feels like when he feels like it and has no concept to what the word "team" is. You would do well to steer clear of this player.

[demon-surge]

Im pretty sure they can come to thier own conclusions fairly easily.

[Trend]

Yeah I see goon squad as more of a 'we want to dominate' guild than a 'we want pvp' guild, but I dont really know them all that well.



Well here's the thing. The only thing Goon Squad really has in common between all of the members is that we read the same comedy web site and not all of us are complete morons. We've got an estimate of about 400-800 people that will join us initially for retail.

While it'd be fun to fight a lot of the same people we did in beta, we'd rather do it without the help of too many other big name pvp guilds. I don't mean to take anything away from you guys as I have the utmost respect for you, it's just that if we have that many people and we can't win without the help of other guilds we'd be pretty damn sorry. We want to be able to stand on our own merits. We'd love to have big alliance guilds face us though and I hope they don't all try to be on the "first" central server.

The other thing is lag. Personally I think having every major pvp guild trying to be on the same server is a bad idea because of this. I don't want to be in a situation where I find myself saying "oh man just 130 more people in front of me. In 10 minutes I'll be able to log in and pvp!". I don't know how likely this will be in retail, but if it happens goons will make this far worse just due to our numbers.
As usual, I agree completely with BEEF. Regarding the lag issue, it's not that one guild is going to throw off the numbers that much, but 3 x Purge (for instance) will result in 150-200 players at peak PvP times easily. I don't want to wait for 6 months for the nut-hangers to get off the server - I don't want Test 6 all over again.

As far as the competition goes, I would just assume not be in a line with 20 other horde guilds to get my PvP kills in. I am anticipating good PvP on all the original servers. Our preference is to be the main alliance target wherever we are. As much as I would like to bring some more hurt to DIE, it's just not worth the lag. And I'm sure there will be a skanky alliance guild on our server anyway. Even if they can't spin as well it will still be fun.

[Jumbled]

I would like to say this with as much respect (to Nurfed) as I can. Why exactly would you want someone such as Rokannis who was booted from 2 different guilds in Closed Beta (Blood Legion and DIE) joining your guild? Whatever you think of DIE the mere aspect of being booted from 2 different guilds should speak to the kind of person he is. While Im not going to speak to Rokannis's skill as a player he is a cancer to a team. He doesn't listen to directions, does whatever he feels like when he feels like it and has no concept to what the word "team" is. You would do well to steer clear of this player.
haha what tools you die guys are, heh maybe he got tired of attacking in the 10v1 fasion and then bragging how you own all horde guilds? Go zerg hillsbrad some more and keep up the image of complete fucktards k?

[Arios]

LOL
I thought for the longest time that "Goon Squad" had something to do with Gooniez movie. Never thought they'd be Something Awful's Goons. Anyways, isn't Lowtax playing EQ2?


Oh yea, Hi to Tivoli and KHB. Long time no see. This is Barios from SB Death server (and Arios at Scorn-- Goodfellas, R30).

[Tyrul]

I would like to say this with as much respect (to Nurfed) as I can. Why exactly would you want someone such as Rokannis who was booted from 2 different guilds in Closed Beta (Blood Legion and DIE) joining your guild? Whatever you think of DIE the mere aspect of being booted from 2 different guilds should speak to the kind of person he is. While Im not going to speak to Rokannis's skill as a player he is a cancer to a team. He doesn't listen to directions, does whatever he feels like when he feels like it and has no concept to what the word "team" is. You would do well to steer clear of this player

Please keep making up stuff like your goon master Gray. I hope he didn't tell you that blood legion booted me. Because he knows for a fact that I left blood legion to join DIE thinking they would be a step up, because I knew they enjoyed pvp, and I had some friends from sullon zek in there. This was before DIE's reputation. When we were discussing me joining I told him how hard it was going to be a bit hard to leave BL because I enjoyed ZXtasys company so much. At that time Blood Legion wasn't very active, it was a guild to get me around and to hangout with. But during the beginning it was only me, card, and ZXtasy really playing together. Rytrearc had out leveled everyone, and us 3 were outlvling the other part of the guild.

I like how you make it seem that I did something horrible for DIE to boot me. My friends and I were having troubles with Gray and his leadership. We were discussing a new guild, possibly making one. Nothing was even set in stone, it was a mere discussion and thought. Card and arch? Were discussing it in teamspeak and hamadryad joined their channel and overheard and sent word to Gray. He booted them and anyone affiliated with them. Why? Because he assumed we were the devil and all against him. Instead of discussing with us the problem, which a good leader would do, he called us disloyal and booted everyone who he thought affiliated with Card. Take note...he booted everyone he THOUGHT. He booted people who had no idea what was going on. I was even gone that night, I came back to a guildless char. Do not put the blame on me, but rather on the leadership skills of Grayrage. If guild members are having problems and they haven't brought it to you yet, then bring it to them. Discuss, try to work it out because it is most likely the leaders fault things are going wrong within the guild members. Get your facts straight please maule, you are what? 40, 50? You are smarter than this.

And maule I only remember one incident where I ran away from the group...that was with card because Gray told us to attack some guys on a hill. But no one followed us. He said to charge...then yelled at us. Thats where we get the famous line..."Zeeshawna, card, what the fuck are you doing! Get the hell back here!" When he learns to pronounce my name...after the million times I've told him...then you can get back to me.
Till then lets try to keep the drama off Nurfed boards plz :)
<3

[Kerigen]

Ya, thier conversation in ts wast pretty, listen for your selves.

http://www.ninja-neer.com/sounds/druttremix.mp3