Unfair Perma Ban

[Selm]

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=4045546&s=new&tmp=1#new

If anyone could sign this we would greatly appreciate it. We lost a very core member to what can only be described as completely harsh banning.

Thanks to anyone who posts on it.

[Cord]

The reason he got banned seems pretty stupid..

Sucks to get banned.. I lost my main character.. I got over it and rerolled. It was unfair.. But oh well.. You can't talk to Blizzard, they just don't care.

[Devilnaut]

It's pretty disgusting how many people will jump on the moral outrage bandwagon and take what looks like perverse pleasure in others' suffering.

[keboman]

Magic rock?

[Mylar]

well, what if it wasnt unfair? what if they somehow found out that(if he did) used some kind of macro/bot-program?

its more then possible

[Tlear]

Hmm they couldnt come up with a decent way to raise faction in AV so they are now making example of people. Kindof lazy way to go about it

[dNa]

Well 3day ban or so would be okai, but this is bit too much ...

[Tayosis]

While perma-ban may be a bit harsh..maybe this will keep the queue's down for AV...

[keboman]

Meh, I think they should ban everyone who exploits the honor/faction system.. otherwise it cheapens the whole thing.

edit: I mean with third party stuff, hell they didn't even ban people for the shaman exploit.

[Selm]

He had exalted before the rep patch. There was nothing for him to gain from being afk there.

[keboman]

Auto-jumping isn't something that can be done in game afaik and blizzard is at liberty to ban if they think someone is using a third party program.. what's the big deal?

[Prometheus]

He had exalted before the rep patch. There was nothing for him to gain from being afk there.
Actually that's not entirely true. For winning an AV you can get up to like 10,000 honor, which obviously is something to gain.

While I agree that perma-ban is extremely harsh for the situation, I think it's also justified because people really need to stop going AFK in AV, you are wasting other people's time. Moreover, I'm pretty sure the perma-ban serves as more than just a punishment, I think they meant for it to serve also as something to stop others from doing it, because it's not like no-one is going to hear about someone getting perma-banned.

So in short, sorry I can't help you buddy, I think he deserved it because he was wasting the time of other people who also pay to play the game, you got to remember that.

[keboman]

But if he was jumping over and over he had to be doing multiple keypresses. That's not something that's done in-game. Only one "action" per keypress and holding a button down won't do it reapeatadly.

[khan3817]

Lol he had a rock.

[oupupu]

He had exalted before the rep patch. There was nothing for him to gain from being afk there.
Actually that's not entirely true. For winning an AV you can get up to like 10,000 honor, which obviously is something to gain.

While I agree that perma-ban is extremely harsh for the situation, I think it's also justified because people really need to stop going AFK in AV, you are wasting other people's time. Moreover, I'm pretty sure the perma-ban serves as more than just a punishment, I think they meant for it to serve also as something to stop others from doing it, because it's not like no-one is going to hear about someone getting perma-banned.

So in short, sorry I can't help you buddy, I think he deserved it because he was wasting the time of other people who also pay to play the game, you got to remember that.

are u retarded? wtf is gettign 10000 honor gonna do? shit all buddy when he said he was alrady at exalted means he wasn't there for the items, since u get the last items once u hit exalted(no matter how far u in it)

so in other words he was there too pvp and he went afk cuz he had too not cuz we wanted too farm honor like everyone seems too think he was doing. perma ban was too much for a first time offender, like %$#@ i know people who actualy hacked and got 3 day bans.....guess it all matters what GM ya run into.

[Devilnaut]

"Auto-jumping isn't something that can be done in game afaik"


How bout autorunning into a wall?

[Prometheus]

He had exalted before the rep patch. There was nothing for him to gain from being afk there.
Actually that's not entirely true. For winning an AV you can get up to like 10,000 honor, which obviously is something to gain.

While I agree that perma-ban is extremely harsh for the situation, I think it's also justified because people really need to stop going AFK in AV, you are wasting other people's time. Moreover, I'm pretty sure the perma-ban serves as more than just a punishment, I think they meant for it to serve also as something to stop others from doing it, because it's not like no-one is going to hear about someone getting perma-banned.

So in short, sorry I can't help you buddy, I think he deserved it because he was wasting the time of other people who also pay to play the game, you got to remember that.

are u retarded? wtf is gettign 10000 honor gonna do? shit all buddy when he said he was alrady at exalted means he wasn't there for the items, since u get the last items once u hit exalted(no matter how far u in it)

so in other words he was there too pvp and he went afk cuz he had too not cuz we wanted too farm honor like everyone seems too think he was doing. perma ban was too much for a first time offender, like %$#@ i know people who actualy hacked and got 3 day bans.....guess it all matters what GM ya run into.
lol, I'm not retarded but I do end up spending a lot of time in the queue cause of idiots like that. If you are going to afk, get the hell out of AV and let other people in there instead of taking up space :roll:

[Nozerac]

"Auto-jumping isn't something that can be done in game afaik"


How bout autorunning into a wall?

You get afk if the game does not detect a keypress in x minutes (5 maybe?) and autorun does not count as a keypress. To put a rock on a key = 1 keypress, he needs to hax it to make it look like multiple keypresses. 3day ban is certainly called for here, dunno about permaban though..

[Tlear]

You can stick 25cents into they forward key and run into the wall, but jumping does require a program of some sort jumming somethign into the jump key wont work

[Selm]

I think in a game RUN by UI's to do everything imaginable it's amazing what his did is a bannable offense. People talk shit shit about "hacking" and "third party" and they have fuckin 5 pages of addons at their login screens.

[Nozerac]

Still, addons making the day a little easier is not a violation of the EULA, which this clearly is. Violation of EULA= ban.

[Indalamar]

If you want to dispute a ban then you are going to need to email the address provided in the ban notification.

[Selm]

I'm finding it really interesting Will and several other people were banned, sent the same writeup yang got, but only given 3 days suspension. He never had a prior. What do you suppose that is all about? Several other people also only got 3 day suspends for "3rd party software" in AV.

[Triz]

Sooo.. did he get unbanned? What's the news

[Selm]

Regardless of what he was really doing, Blizzard was under the impression he was using a 3rd party program which they stated in an email to him.

[Drak'kul]

I was there the day Yangstress was running around in circles about 15 people were doing the same and they were all reported, so being so you waste the 25 of us who work all day come home to play with a bunch of fuckheads macroing to stay in game. Sorry bud but I pay to play work my ass off as many others do to win in AV to have 15 idiots abusing it to get faction. I dont care if he is exhalted get he hell out of BG or go wack it elsewhere ruining someone elses time is just a joke hell I know horde probably had a few doing the same thing.
I have no patience for it..
Drakkul 60 mage of Legion

[Khalaio]

its pretty weak that they banned for whatever reason since hes never had a strike against his account

WoW= carebear, there will be many pleased fanboi's im sure

[Backdoor Beauty]

there was a player in my guild who got banned for this. He WAS using a 3rd party program, and he had been farming AV rep for so long (i think he got exalted in 4-5 days). He recieved a 3 day suspension, not a perma-ban and he WAS using a 3rd party program like i said earlier, we had discussed it in tells, guild chat, and group chat multiple times (mainly me saying, man, i wouldn't risk my account for some epic that i'll replace in a few months).

Needless to say, if this other player did get perma-banned, then my guild mate should have been perma-banned aswell. This however wasn't the case, and is further proof that GM's do not have a direct set of guidelines as to how to approach every situation, and are left up to their own discretion as to what to do.

Whether that's a good or bad thing, i don't know, but that seems to be the case nonetheless.

[dNa]

I'm finding it really interesting Will and several other people were banned, sent the same writeup yang got, but only given 3 days suspension. He never had a prior. What do you suppose that is all about? Several other people also only got 3 day suspends for "3rd party software" in AV.

Will wasn't using a 3rd party program. He was playing daoc at the same time, and just alt-tabbing back into WoW every couple minutes and jumping around in circles.

We also have players on our server doing the same thing. Well on one side i understand why they do it, but i also understand ppl getting pissed if they loose alterac cause 10 ppl are semi afk running in circles every 3mins.
However i would never report players for doing it, cause i think its just retarded if you try to get other ppl banned.
But it seems there are a lot of players just waiting for others to go afk so they can report them.

[Drak'kul]

DNA your a tard if you log into play someone is macroing and it affects your game play you report them. Its not about getting folks banned they break the eula get caught they get banned its simple, less idiots we have in alliance the better.