PVP: fg vs fg

[Sharog]

some question about the current 5 on 5 pvp with alliance vs horde.

we(horde) are having some problem with alliance groups setup(warrior mage pala druid priest or warrior warrior pala druid priest). and we are somewhat forced to run in a group with 2 priest as basic due we dont have any other class that can dispel, so with only 1 priest we simply end up getting sheeped all the time. while alliance has dispel on the paladin. we feel somewhat imbalance in this section.

but anywayz, our group setup is mostly (warrior shaman mage priest priest).

what we do is often focus fire on the priest, but the druid manage to keep their priest up most of the time while entangling our warrior to make the priest extreemly hard to kill, on otherside we have our priest getting attacked by their warrior/pala and the other priest constantly getting sheeped/silenced. that way we are unable to dispel entangle efficiently thus unable to bring down their priest within a short time. and our priest usualy dont last long from the insane warrior dmg output).
sometimes we do manage to get the priest down, but after that it is still a losing battle.
we have also tried to attack druid first, but it simply has too many survival ability and ability to run away in beastform.
any other target seems waste of time.

many thankx to anyone who can give some advice for how to counter and who to target .

[Zorac]

Shamans can dispell... im almost 100% on that.

[arch]

Shamans can only dispell alliance players, not horde.

[alyflex]

how hard is it to silence the druid? just have a mage/shadow priest ready to silence him the second the druid start to cast and then just nuke that priest, then move on to the mage, then the druid... trick is to just poly/entagle/freeze/slow the warriors and keep a distance to them in the beginning

[RubiksCube]

imho the grounding totem is god as it prevents the sheep instead of removing it

[Anonymous]

Or make a /duel, /forfeit macro to use on the priest and attack him to get him out of sheep.

Kinda cheap but thats what we do if not enough dispellers are available.

[deathjester]

Or make a /duel, /forfeit macro to use on the priest and attack him to get him out of sheep.

Kinda cheap but thats what we do if not enough dispellers are available.

doesnt work if you're in combat.

[Anonymous]

well make it BEFORE than.

the situation he is speaking off sounds like a set up 5vs5 duel like in the arenas.

so you are very well able to start the duel before fighting.

[Wyvvy]

alliance cannot outdo horde in 5v5 sipmly b/c of shamans

get as many shamans as possible and thre goes the win!

2 grounding totems, 2 earth shocks, 2 frost shocks = alliance casters become useless.

i remember during the 5v5 arena events our 3 shaman/2 rogue team went undefeated the whole night against any kind of team alliance/horde and it wasn't like they were trying, it was so easy.

though nowdays well equiped warriors are the way to go, shamans are still useful b/c they dominate enemy casters.

[Backdoor Beauty]

I agree, it's almost mandatory to have a shaman in a 5v5.

That being said, have you tried a warlock? I find that as a warlock when my 5 man group does our rounds farming CP i find myself mostly fearing and cursing and dotting rather than nuking. Keep the 1 feared while you beat on the other. We usually try and keep a pally or priest feared, and focus on the druid (who can't dispel).

They can also keep multiple targets feared with regular fear + howl of terror.

[Sypher]

this may sound stupid, but in vs healing heavy groups we train what dps they have, in heavy dps groups we train the healers they have...

Start out by attacking 1 taget to get the healers focused on them, then switch assist onto someone else and train the hell out of them.. sometimes it doesn't work but most of the time it does :x

As a mage, one of my key jobs is keeping the paladin out of heal mode. I will start off by Sheeping him 3 times to interrupt spells, then CS a heal, then go back to sheeping (10s of CS almost resets the immune on poly). The priest can go ahead and dispel the paladin, but that means he isn't healing someone and the paladin is goign to get fooked again in 1.5s ;p

edit: if for some reason the paladin is immune to poly and CS is down, ill poly some random person to keep the paladin dispelling that person so he aint healing anyone

[Rekuul']

Just use 5 warriors. Nothing can stop that MS assist train. UD are preferable.

-Rek

[uro]

bitter much rek? :P