21/20/10 rogue build... comments?

[SoleSteeler]

I'm gonna try and make a build that's not really done before... all you see are 30/21/0 or 31/20/0 or 21/8/22 or 30/8/13 etc...

this build has high dodge, high parry, high backstab crits + dmg (opportunity + imp backstab and lethality) coldblood, and it also has 10% extra crit bonus... also has riposte *shrug*

i am currently using a 21/8/22 build, it's fun, but meh... i've been dreamin about using a 10% crit build :)

Assassination Talents (21 points)

# Remorseless Attacks - 1/5 point
After killing an opponent that yields experience, gives you a 8% increased critical strike chance on your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, or Ghostly Strike.

# Malice - 5/5 points
Increases your critical strike chance by 5%.

# Improved Eviscerate - 3/3 points
Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 15%.

# Ruthlessness - 3/3 points
Gives your finishing moves a 60% chance to add a combo point to your target.

# Murder - 2/2 points
Increases your chance to hit while using your Sap, Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot abilities by 5%.

# Relentless Strikes - 1/1 point
Your finishing moves have a 20% chance per combo point to restore 25 energy.

# Lethality - 5/5 points
Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Sinister Strike, Gouge, Backstab, Ambush, Ghostly Strike, or Hemorrhage ability by 30%.

# Cold Blood - 1/1 point
When activated, increases the critical strike chance of your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, or Eviscerate by 100%.



Combat Talents (20 points)

# Improved Sinister Strike - 2/2 points
Reduces the Energy cost of your Sinister Strike ability by 5 Energy.

# Lightning Reflexes - 4/5 points
Increases your Dodge chance by 4%.

# Deflection - 5/5 points
Increases your Parry chance by 5%.

# Improved Backstab - 3/3 points
Increases the critical strike chance of your Backstab ability by 30%.

# Riposte - 1/1 point
A strike that becomes active after parrying an opponent's attack. This attack deals 150% weapon damage and disarms the target for 6 seconds.

# Dagger Specialization - 5/5 points
Increases your chance to get a critical strike with Daggers by 5%.



Subtlety Talents (10 points)

# Camouflage - 5/5 points
Increases your speed while stealthed by 15%.

# Opportunity - 5/5 points
Increases the damage dealt when striking from behind with your Backstab, Garrote, or Ambush abilities by 20%.

[Watzit2ya]

Heres my issues: If your going to make a build that highlights Backstab's, and Backstab crits. You are insinuating that your going to be having the upper hand, and a stunned opponent, or a gouged opponent. Why would you need all of the improved defensive talents, when the whole key to your fight is to not get hit period?

I do like the improved daggers % to crit along with the general +% to crit talent. But when your talking Backstab, your % alone is already so high those extra few dont make much of a difference on backstab's.

I know your going for something different, and dont want to be cookie cutter, but it looks like your almost stuck inbetween a Ambush/BS crit rogue, and a SS spamming Riposte/combat Rogue. Your almost gimping yourself cuz now you dont have all the mass ambush/BS crits that those rogues have, but also you dont have massive damage main hand SS hits.

You might be better off going for a improved backstab high Combat high subtelty build, using something like cheap shot opener, Backstab, then use a weapon macro to switch in a hard hitting mainhander and spam SS's using a riposte macro. Then youd have preperation.

I dont think giving up alot of extra abilities is worth being able to have better backstabs in your case, you would be alot better off going straight combat. But then again what do i know, if you like it and it turns out well let us know!

[Ratama]

You can use backstabs in a build that does not rely on a stunned oponent. Using mouselook with backstab bound to a mousekey, I backstab people that are engaged in combat with me all the time. Without collision, or very good facing checks, it is extremely easy.

The real issue is whether or not there is a better place to put the points for how he plays. I'm curious on the math of Seal Fate vs Dagger Specialization. I might consider sacrificing Dagger Spec and some of the other Combat Talents to get Seal Fate. I'm considering that same change to my current build actually.

If you spec this way, let us know how it works. I think it would do well with or without Seal Fate

[Coldfire]

IMO, this build is so close to the Hybrid Dagger build from the Rogue thread that you might as well just go with that.