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Sintor
01-30-2005, 04:33 AM
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=1113426&tmp=1#post1113426

Huge post response by blue.

keboman
01-30-2005, 04:57 AM
Wow.

Generate rage on parry/dodge/block? Consider it done! ;]

I hope that's literal.

we have found the bug causing abilities (ie: heroic strike, sunder armor, etc) to miss around 9-10% of the time under the above conditions instead of the intended 5%

woot

(regarding execute)
First, it's worth noting that the full consumption of rage upon missing is a bug that will be fixed. However, it might be worth doing some more research on the value of Improved Execute, as once again there is more to it then meets the eye. For example, the reduced rage cost on the base ability has three immediate implications.

oh yeah.

(Regarding Bloodthirst)
I agree that this talent can use some improvement. It turns out the current design leaves it vulnerable to always being either too narrow or too powerful, without much in-between. While this problem is ok in some situations based on the overall placement and role of the talent in its tree (such as with the rogue’s “remorseless attacks” talent), the problem isn’t ok for the final talent of a tree. As such, this talent is a likely candidate for change
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I think those are the key points.. did I miss anything?

South
01-30-2005, 05:10 AM
Really ""nice"" post from that dev regarding warriors. I've never seen this kind of feedback form a dev in a MMORPG. I hope they'll fix all classes issues.

Alqwa
01-30-2005, 05:47 AM
Warriors (and druids in bear form) are intended to gain some rage on block,dodge,parry events, but apparently this isn't working correctly.
Is it only me or it took them only few years to find out?

Patch please...

Firecrak
01-30-2005, 07:38 AM
Now, regarding improving the warrior’s overall rage generation. We've found that there are indeed a few issues with rage generation as a result of bugs. Warriors (and druids in bear form) are intended to gain some rage on block,dodge,parry events, but apparently this isn't working correctly. This needs to be fixed asap in order for warriors to meet their total expected rage generation.

/cry

THANK YOU JESUS!

Landogarner
01-30-2005, 10:35 AM
Kalgan responded to another issue:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=1113922&p=1&tmp=1#post1113922


I'd be interested to see how much that improves your current DW build, Sintor.

Firecrak
01-30-2005, 11:00 AM
Its the same thread (original broke due to too many responses). He did use "awesome changes"...this gives pause for thought.

Ei
01-30-2005, 02:16 PM
some things sound like " deal with it " .//

South
01-30-2005, 02:49 PM
some things sound like " deal with it " .//

The bad thing is that the majority sound like "deal with it" (or they beloved "it works as intended"

:evil:

sh33p
01-30-2005, 04:27 PM
some things sound like " deal with it " .//

The bad thing is that the majority sound like "deal with it" (or they beloved "it works as intended"

:evil:

I think it's more like "stop whining you're not capable of 1 hitting everything in god mode"

Warriors have some valid problems but a lot of it is just psychological, people read the wah threads then go make more wah threads of their own, suddenly finding problems that they never thought about before and don't really exist or are suffered by all classes.

Blacktastic
01-30-2005, 04:41 PM
Good to hear that warriors will be gaining rage on dodge/parry/block and possible talent tweaks.

anduz
01-30-2005, 05:35 PM
One thing is what they say, another is what they do.

Unamed
01-30-2005, 07:12 PM
Good to know we're being fixed. A thanks to anybody that atteneded the warrior protest.

keboman
02-01-2005, 02:38 AM
I'd say if we get all the fixes listed we'd still lose to just about everything. I'd like to see completely revamped talents, 5 minute abilities, and more.. then we'd be equal.

Nastrand
02-01-2005, 08:31 AM
I will believe it when I see it..

I am still running 31 fury 20 arms and love it in group pvp/pve but it sucks bad in duels and 1vs1 pvp.

I just need better 1h weapons to get jiggy with it. Thrashblade is nice and all but I am ready for some more dps.

keboman
02-01-2005, 08:32 AM
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/itemset.html?setid=218

might change things if we had it though.. maybe we're supposed to scale really well with gear so they had to nerf overall damage?

Dendriath
02-01-2005, 04:10 PM
"Thunder Clap is useless"'
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"It's not useless, it does 1-2 damage so your statement is false"

"Most Warrior talents are useless"
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"Lies! They do 1% more x, your statement is false!"

:cry:

That's the only thing I got from that forum.

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