Onyxia is slain..

[Inconsiderable]

http://wow.gamona.de/images/upload/1757.jpg

This picture showed up in our irc channel short time ago, I wonder if there is a movie out or something.

[Alqwa]

Wonder what dropped.

[Watzit2ya]

Probably 74 silver and a Green +17 agility +17 strength cloth boots. WoW is cruel like that.

[Iceman]

3 Epic set items dropped. Legplates of Might, One piece of the nightslayer set and a Cenarion Raiment headpiece.


Korean clan, The Chosen, beat her.


Iceman

[suisydl]

is that in the korean beta? are the korean servers up yet?

[Iceman]

Korea went live 10 days ago, but they were allowed to keep their beta accounts. Thus, I dunno how much longer they have had time wise inorder to prepare.


Iceman

[Ladro]

fake screen , turn the picture 90 degrees to left and voila...100% fake

[Alqwa]

I see Onyxia screenshot turned 90 degrees to the left. Anything else I missed?

[Stompede]

Props to the Korean guild Chosen. Even if they got to keep their retail chars for retail, Onyxia was out for more than a couple weeks in CB as well, and no one beat her.

The cesspool that is known as the world of warcraft forums has a running thread on Onyxia being slain. Its kinda horrifying what some of the other players have been saying about Korea... What a bunch of haters.

I agree though, all that work for 3 epic drops that are part of the armor sets. Seems a little weak, although those might just be the tip of the iceberg in terms of her loot table. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

[Ladro]

well if u are doing onyxia , you won't kill her without Recording...thats the most stupid thing i ever heard.....i don't belive PS'ed screenies...let me show some movies

[Ladro]

looks like a onyxia standing but turned 90 degrees to me......if he's dead why he has his eyes open and looks 100% alive?

[Ei]

Landro idiot ! go talk in the blizzard forum theres a tread full of idiots like u.
I killed hogger but i dont have a movie damn now i cant prove it .

[evilution]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say its authentic.

koren's are crazy gamers :P

[Ladro]

Hogger is different than Onyxia imo

[Alqwa]

Well, I would say that they dont have Onyxia dying animation yet, thats why it might look fake to you. =P
I mean its huge pile of vectors and it can get stuck in funny positions like this one.

[suisydl]

well, if she was, in fact, killed, then i'm sure blizz will know for sure and will post something acknowledging that fact.

seems to me that 1st kill only counts on those servers as they got to keep their beta characters, thats a good 15-20 days they didnt have to level to 60 again and get the keys again that everyone else had to.

just seems to me that if you compare that to the us servers, its like comparing apples and oranges.

[Ladro]

hmmz first want to see animation before i know for sure...

[neurotic]

Quite frankly, you're free to believe or don't believe whatever you want Ladro, this is however not the Convince-Ladro-Forum, so how about giving it a break?

[Envie]

Quite frankly, you're free to believe or don't believe whatever you want Ladro, this is however not the Convince-Ladro-Forum, so how about giving it a break?

It would be nice if Blizzard would publicly announce that Onyxia has fallen and give credit to the first ones to do it.

I don't see them responding to any of this stuff on the general forum crapfest.

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[neurotic]

I totally agree, I'd love to see both a movie and some confirmation (or even a congrats to the guild) from Blizzard. My point was solely that it wasn't necessairly to make 3 or 4 posts saying he didn't believe it. 1 is fine, 2 is annoying 3 or more is spamming :)

[Dendriath]

Would have loved a movie. :(

[Ei]

Hm id like to take a look at the korean general forum. I only see squares ;D

[Ghostridah]

"In regards to questions about the Korean open beta not getting wiped (in response to the recent success of the Onyxia encounter), we wanted to shed more light on this particular subject, while we make sure the raid win was legitimate.

Traditionally, Korean online games have been just that, online. They do not provide a box copy for players, and make the game client download only. This has set the expectation for how to operate an online game in Korea, and thus Blizzard used the same model.

The game is available for download for free. On the other hand, Korean players do not get a 1 month free trial period. Instead, the open beta is the equivalent of their free trial period. Also, Korean MMOGs generally charge a higher per month fee. For World of Warcraft, the monthly fee is approximately $24 a month. "


that pretty much confirms that they did kill onyxia

[suisydl]

Ghostridah,

I'd love to see the link for that quote.

Shame that same business model didn't apply in the US, i'm sure alllll the beta testers would of loved to keep their characters.

Something else too, did everyone in korea get into the beta? if not, thats a pretty screwed free month for some and not for others.

I know that I, for one, would be hella pissed if i got the "sorry you didnt get into your free month" rejection letter. :P

[lethial]

Ghostridah,

I'd love to see the link for that quote.

Shame that same business model didn't apply in the US, i'm sure alllll the beta testers would of loved to keep their characters.

Something else too, did everyone in korea get into the beta? if not, thats a pretty screwed free month for some and not for others.

I know that I, for one, would be hella pissed if i got the "sorry you didnt get into your free month" rejection letter. :P

On the front page the last sticky:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=1079655&s=new&tmp=1#new

[suisydl]

thx much!

[Envie]

"In regards to questions about the Korean open beta not getting wiped (in response to the recent success of the Onyxia encounter), we wanted to shed more light on this particular subject, while we make sure the raid win was legitimate.

Traditionally, Korean online games have been just that, online. They do not provide a box copy for players, and make the game client download only. This has set the expectation for how to operate an online game in Korea, and thus Blizzard used the same model.

The game is available for download for free. On the other hand, Korean players do not get a 1 month free trial period. Instead, the open beta is the equivalent of their free trial period. Also, Korean MMOGs generally charge a higher per month fee. For World of Warcraft, the monthly fee is approximately $24 a month. "


that pretty much confirms that they did kill onyxia

Is anyone else just a tad annoyed that they're killing Onyxia 10 days after their game goes live by getting to keep their beta chars? The rest of us had to re-roll and start from scratch, no practice, no training, no gear.

Same game, same monster, much much different player circumstances.

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[suisydl]

yaya, envie, i'm in the same boat with ya.

that's why you can't compare us servers and korean servers. not to discount what they did, because they were the 1st on THEIR server to do so.

No worries envie, i've still got my money on Nurfed to be 1st on US servers

[Stompede]

Although I'm glad to be American, it really doesn't matter to me whether Korea did it first or not. Quite frankly, we are at a distinct disadvantage as most people have said, in that we were unable to bring in our beta chars. Its water under the bridge however, and they did it first (if this is a legitimate kill).

Can anyone read Korean though? Here are the three drops:

http://image.playforum.net:8080/gallery/echo/10152042/11/45452_1106920672_ony.jpg

And, from what it looks like because of this official WoW (korea) website post:

http://worldofwarcraft.co.kr/info/world/news_050128_2.html

It might be truly legit.

/golf claps to Conquest

[MrO]

Although I'm glad to be American, it really doesn't matter to me whether Korea did it first or not. Quite frankly, we are at a distinct disadvantage as most people have said, in that we were unable to bring in our beta chars. Its water under the bridge however, and they did it first (if this is a legitimate kill).

Can anyone read Korean though? Here are the three drops:

http://image.playforum.net:8080/gallery/echo/10152042/11/45452_1106920672_ony.jpg

And, from what it looks like because of this official WoW (korea) website post:

http://worldofwarcraft.co.kr/info/world/news_050128_2.html

It might be truly legit.

/golf claps to Conquest

/golf claps to an idiot who thinks that is the post saying she died.

That is the raid post Tigole made the other day on the US boards. That being said, Blizzard is looking into it now. I am pretty sure she did drop, her floating in the air is just showing the fact that they were so not ready for her to die.

[Stompede]

In response to Mr. O:

Like i said, i was asking if anyone could read Korean. I was merely posting that too see if anyone could (kindly) inform if it was indeed what i thought. No need for name calling.

No need to be bitter, its just a game.

[Scorch]

I like all the closest racists on the WoW boards coming out of the woodwork on the Onyxia threads today.

Anyway it looks real to me, anyone who's fought her would know why her corpse would be 30 feet up in the air. She's certainly got some animation issues to iron out.

[suisydl]

Scorch,

agreed, love how all of a sudden all the koreans are l33t haxx0rz and cheats. hello, maybe live over there a bit and understand their culture b4 you jump all over em. gamers are revered as much as pro athletes are over here.

there is no comparison btwn "them" and "us", as it's an entirely different circumstance with the beta wipes/no wipes. that alone should keep the haters in line, but we know better, dont we?

[alcaras]

A quick question... if their beta didn't wipe, does this mean that they got to keep the Onyxia keys they could buy from the temporary vendor?

I.e. My Troll mage had an Onyxia key at the end of beta without ever having run UBRS... if there was no wipe, he would have still conceivably had his Onyxia key...

[Tivoli]

A quick question... if their beta didn't wipe, does this mean that they got to keep the Onyxia keys they could buy from the temporary vendor?

I.e. My Troll mage had an Onyxia key at the end of beta without ever having run UBRS... if there was no wipe, he would have still conceivably had his Onyxia key...

I was thinking the same thing, and that is a possibility. She will be killed on US servers probably not too far in the future, Korea had a headstart for gear and levels for release, and possibly an easy way for beta testers to get their keys.

Congrats to them if it is legit.

[demon-surge]

Onyxia isnt really that hard, the problem is just getting good gear and paying a lot of attention to whats going on around you.

Get good fire resist, get a good game plan for all stages, and it shouldnt be too bad, hardest thing is getting everyone who has other commitments together and doing it at the same time. Koreans have a lot different mindset towards video games, and if they really did it, all the power to them for working thier asses off to do it.

I see a lot of posts about people complaining it was the unbuffed onyxia (where as US servers have a harder one), about beta accounts still being played, and crap like that. In the end, she died.

Ragnaros next?

[Doodle]

its confirmed by blizzard

[Stompede]

its confirmed by blizzard

link??

[Ironbeard]

Q u o t e:
if you guys dont know, the koreans are still in the first patch. in the first part of the patch all you had to do was get onyxia dead. she didnt fly. the terrain didnt change with lava sprewing out to harm you. they also still have there beta characters because of a mess up with the license agreements over there in korea. in the patch that the US is in atm, there are three stages to onyxia. the first part which many guilds have gotten past, the second part where she flies up and breaths fire on the whole raid. and the third part where the terrain breaks apart and lava spews out. a lot of guilds in the US patch NOW have gotten to the third part of the event and whiped. the korean guild (which you see in the video) only killed the first part of the event. because the other two parts are not implemented.

I also read that they found bugs in the instance which Blizzard is no correcting. Supposedly there are spots where you can stand and not be in combat, and spots where you can stand and wont be attacked. They used these exploits to beat her. Few other bugs they found that Blizzard is fixing as well.

[Scorch]

Half of that didn't make sense. Where are you getting that from?

[kernel16]

gg to them, its just sad to read the replies on the wow forums thou, so gamers in korea take the game seriously (or maybe not) and play it right boohoo , whats with the hate ~_~, anywhoo i sure aint suprised.

Which brings me to a point, anyone else want inter server bgs event, thatd be awesome.

Also, Ironbeard, where are you quoting that from?

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I like this one:

Iamblichos writes:

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Q u o t e:
Korea: 1 North America: 0
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Heh... um, no. When they MAKE the games and we pay all our money to PLAY them... THAT'S when they win.

Economics 4 teh win!!!111

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LMAO, so sad, when muchos jobs gets exported to such countrys they win GG.

Economics 4 teh win!!!111

[boris]

Grats to them. Pity about some of the bigoted responses. Hard to judge how much of an advantage they had really, did they get to keep their CB chars? Or just the OB ones?

[kernel16]

Grats to them. Pity about some of the bigoted responses. Hard to judge how much of an advantage they had really, did they get to keep their CB chars? Or just the OB ones?

dont rly know. but who are we kidding, even if they started at the same time as us, anyone else think they still would of killed her 1st?

[Firecrak]

Similar thread, with allakhazam english versions of items can be found here:

http://www.the-combine.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=15003

(sorry too lazy to copy/paste the 3 items).


Wait? WTF....3 items for 40 people? Shit the dragons in daoc dropped more than that.

[Paladia]

Korean Advantage? They got to keep their OB chars, the US retail has gone on for much longer (Korean beta started the 18th of December IIRC), so please do not try to belittle their performance for self satisfaction.

[Crosse]

Wait? WTF....3 items for 40 people? Shit the dragons in daoc dropped more than that.

Obviously you never played EQ, lol.

[Palmen]

I dont understand why som ppls cant stand that Koreans killed Onyxia first.

In my bock a gamer is gamer no mather wher they come from.. imo thats the good thing about Internet and online games, you can make friends form all over the world.

Congrats to the gamers who got the first Onyxia kill :D

[Envie]

Korean Advantage? They got to keep their OB chars, the US retail has gone on for much longer (Korean beta started the 18th of December IIRC), so please do not try to belittle their performance for self satisfaction.

This clears up a lot of misunderstanding if true. I thought they paid for beta and then got to keep their closed beta characters. There was rumor that American open beta would also carry over to retail, but in the end they decided not to. Getting to keep open beta characters isn't as big of an advantage as if they'd been fully developed closed beta ones.

Still don't see any answer about keys though. Did they get vendor bought onyxia keys in open beta or did they have to do the annoyingly long key quest like retail? Part of the organizational issues for us has been getting keys for everyone that needs them. If Koreans had vendor bought keys from beta, then that's clearly a hands down advantage for most of their players who killed her.

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[Krissam]

looks like a onyxia standing but turned 90 degrees to me......if he's dead why he has his eyes open and looks 100% alive?

read the changelog for the newest eu patch, onyxia's animation was fixed


well, if she was, in fact, killed, then i'm sure blizz will know for sure and will post something acknowledging that fact.

seems to me that 1st kill only counts on those servers as they got to keep their beta characters, thats a good 15-20 days they didnt have to level to 60 again and get the keys again that everyone else had to.

just seems to me that if you compare that to the us servers, its like comparing apples and oranges.

Only 1 problem, us retail started before korean open



Still don't see any answer about keys though. Did they get vendor bought onyxia keys in open beta or did they have to do the annoyingly long key quest like retail? Part of the organizational issues for us has been getting keys for everyone that needs them. If Koreans had vendor bought keys from beta, then that's clearly a hands down advantage for most of their players who killed her.

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so you're saying you have to complete a long quest in order to enter onyxia's lair?

i thought blizzard had introduced their "raid lvls" ? (same as honor, exept it' gives you acces to "higher" raids

[Ghetto]

the key vendor wasn't in american open beta, so i doubt it was in korean OB

[Sintor]

the key vendor wasn't in american open beta, so i doubt it was in korean OB

Actually it was. If you can dig up a cached page for it, tigole made a post saying they would spawn the key vendor on any server where there was a large showing of 60's.

Also, Korean closed beta didn't get wiped from what I hear. That was going on at the same time as our closed beta, so the gear point stands.

[Hiero]

Korean Advantage? They got to keep their OB chars, the US retail has gone on for much longer (Korean beta started the 18th of December IIRC),

biggest difference likely is:

in open beta you could buy an onyxia key from a vendor where in retail you had to do multiple UBRS runs to acquire one. UBRS itself being a keyed zone, this is a rather large advantage[/code]

[Firecrak]

Wait? WTF....3 items for 40 people? Shit the dragons in daoc dropped more than that.

Obviously you never played EQ, lol.

I believe the whole point of WoW raid game is to get the fuck away from EQ...correct me if i'm wrong. And no I didn't.