Arms - Mace Specialization

[Theldon]

How often does it proc? Does it proc more often with a slower weapon vs a faster one?

[Secro]

I think the way it works is that it'll proc the same amount over a period of a minute with any speed weapon. I havn't used it though unfortunatly.

[Tarr]

not enough to make it worth it over axe or sword

[Ferlucii]

11% and 6 rage with a 3.8 speed weapon.

[Mikael]

Its really not that great anymore.. Its still viable.. and pisses off casters, but In all honesty it doesn't do enough for me. When it was 5ppm now that was fun.

[dr_AllCOM3]

so, axe or sword for pvp? (blacksmith ones)

[Anduryondon]

Well, after i played 6 Months or so with Ashkandi and then switched to EoN i realized how sick 5% crit is. Especially with resilienc its more important now to get a good crit number, even if the crit dmg is reduced around 10%. So i take the Axe, even if their stats suxx :<

[uro]

Axe was better than sword before, its MUCH better now. Resillience and Flurry > HEY MAYBE MY SHIT WILL PROC AND I MIGHT KILL YOU PLX!?

[Soruss]

Axe was better than sword before, its MUCH better now. Resillience and Flurry > HEY MAYBE MY SHIT WILL PROC AND I MIGHT KILL YOU PLX!?

No way. Sword spec may be streaky, but it's streaky on the high end of potential damage not on its basic chance to do extra damage, and how much damage is actually done. Also, I can only see resilience making axe spec less desirable.

If you're specing into flurry, then I can see axe spec yielding some advantages.

[Margus]

who doesn't spec flurry!

[dr_AllCOM3]

i spec TM, love to stancedance

[Dunderdon]

i am not that sure about flurry either in terms of pvp and arena

[auren]

Go ahead and roll with that sword, rage from crits>>>rage from extra hit. Also when im in all arena pvp gear with about -8% crit, you sword warriors will be running with what? 15% crit compared to 20%? but oh no the extra 400 dmg hurts too bad! roll swordz!!!

[Otzo]

Warriors with poleaxe spec will hace 34% crit on battle (gladiator stuff), thats 27% when people get max resillience and youll do like -7% less crit on them and shit.

[Soruss]

rage from crits>>>rage from extra hit.

Wrong.


It's ok to prefer axe spec to sword spec, but trying to justify it with math is basically just asking to look like an idiot.

Sword Spec advantages:

procs off everything, including hamstring
extra atatcks give rage
Extra attacks can crit giving really high potential damage/rage gain
Extra attack damage won't be reduced by resilience (except if it crits, in which case the damage is already higher than what axe would've produced)

Axe Spec advantages:

5% more chance to proc flurry.
impale is more useful because of more crits.

Crits also have downsides including causing abilities for other classes (blessed resilience priests...), where as extra attacks have no downside. Not to mention the resilience changes.

[Otzo]

I'd say poleaxe is better till we get enough dps gear (tier 5 i guess) to have enough crit with sword spec and so on, everyone atm needs to spec crit in my eyes.

[Anduryondon]

imho the tier 5 set has just mass str but not mass crit, so i think poleaxe will still be superior then

[grom]

i doubt that t5 is in its final state as it's not really t5 compared to t4, more like t4.1 with more armor

concerning the specs at lvl 70: if fights are the way they were intended to be at 70 ie long, drawn out fights, there shouldn't be any major differences between the specs as heavy bursts aren't mandatory in that scenario.

though i never played a lvl 70 char so i don't know first hand stuff about pvp balance at 70.

[Soruss]

i doubt that t5 is in its final state as it's not really t5 compared to t4, more like t4.1 with more armor

concerning the specs at lvl 70: if fights are the way they were intended to be at 70 ie long, drawn out fights, there shouldn't be any major differences between the specs as heavy bursts aren't mandatory in that scenario.

though i never played a lvl 70 char so i don't know first hand stuff about pvp balance at 70.

I think burst will still be a big deal.

Oh, and in the long drawn out situation MS is still the best spec because 50% healing debuff means they spend twice as much mana to heal.

[Dunderdon]

I think burst will still be a big deal.

Oh, and in the long drawn out situation MS is still the best spec because 50% healing debuff means they spend twice as much mana to heal.

of course burst will be a big deal

did you guys never play GW? ^^

[Rickert]

I dont think it'll ever come to calling spikes in wow, since dps is higher than the hps already and there are not enough defense options. If you want to kill someone just send two players whack at him and he will die sooner or later, only question is: who will die first ^^

[Margus]

I dont think it'll ever come to calling spikes in wow, since dps is higher than the hps already and there are not enough defense options. If you want to kill someone just send two players whack at him and he will die sooner or later, only question is: who will die first ^^
the one with more critluck :>

I dunno how it's with gladiators or equal stuff but atm i just got around 24% crit in battle with my old gear and a lunar crescent which adds 2% extra crit and poleaxe spec, so i'm ending with about 18% crit in battle without poleaxe spec which just kinda suck.