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SandDemon
11-24-2006, 08:42 PM
I'm buying a new computer soon and as always, I like to bug the public because I'm not always *in* with the latest craze so trying to put together a new machine isn't so easy. Using newegg.com as a guide, here's what I've come up with - I usually update a computer every 2-3 years, so that's why I'm not going super cheapy but allowing room for upgrades.

-eVGA motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813188009)
-2gig Corsair XMS2 Dominator RAM (http://www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820145168) - some combo deal with mobo plus mail-in rebate
-Intel Core 2 Duo 2.66GHz Conroe (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819115002)
-Thermaltake 700 watt power supply (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817153039)
-X-fi Fatality's Sound Blaster (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16829102005) - it was cheap
-eVGA Nvidia 8800 GTX (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814130072)
-2 WD SATA 3.0Gb/s 7200 rpm 80gig drives (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822135106) - dont need super space, just want speed for games I play. They're cheap, could go 4 or 6
-Some random cheap computer case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16811146025)
-Windows XP-64 Pro with Vista Upgrade (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16832116180) - bastards, that's expensive!

Grand total of 2626.06 with shipping.

Possible upgrades later:
-another 8800 gtx card for SLI
-Killer NIC card (already dual gig LAN though)
-Physics card
-Anyone know any good speaker systems? Not looking for ZOMG 7 speakers, but maybe 2+sub to hold me over.

Already own:
-Logitech keyboard
-Razor Mouse
-Some nice headphones
-24 inch Dell Widescreen (was just on sale for 15% off, best money I've ever spent)

So what do you guys think? Am I missing anything or is there something better I can swap in/out and stay roughly around the same price range? I've been tempted to go through some sites like http://ibuypower.com or http://cyberpowerpc.com, but it's more expensive obviously (not by much, and tempting considering I wouldn't have to put it together or worry about parts for 3 years).

Any input would be great guys,

Sand



EDIT: Actually man, I can get a slightly better offer at cyberpowerpc.com. 750watt power supply, a dvd cd-r/w, floppy drive, more fans, 3 year limited warranty and it's 2535...only thing is I don't know the brand they use for the hard-drives, but the rest is the same. That and it'll take them a bit longer to ship it.

Ealdidar
11-25-2006, 10:26 AM
eVGA Nvidia 8800 GTX


Get one of the mid-range 7000s now, then upgrade to an 8000 when prices come down and games actually use the new shaders.



2 WD SATA 3.0Gb/s 7200 rpm 80gig drives - dont need super space, just want speed for games I play. They're cheap, could go 4 or 6


If you want speed get 10,000 rpm hard drives.



Physics card


Waste of money; very few games will leverage a physics card, and ATI is putting physics technology on their graphics cards (NVidia will follow suit if it's successful)



Windows XP-64 Pro with Vista Upgrade


Fuck Windows and their half-ass 64-bit edition.

SandDemon
11-25-2006, 11:15 AM
Well I bought it from cyberpowerpc since they had a sale, putting it 200 cheaper than newegg with all the exact same stuff plus I get the warranty.

And yeah WindowsXP-64 sucks, but I might as well go with the 64-bit Vista when it comes up mid Nov

Ealdidar
11-25-2006, 11:55 AM
Or you could run a 64-bit Linux which actually works and costs $0

SandDemon
11-25-2006, 12:11 PM
And doesnt run what I need to run - besides gaming is a bitch and about 300% more time to setup (I've done it), I use this for work...and the software I need doesn't work on it. Don't get me wrong, I like Linux - but this was back when I was in college with way too much free time. As a working buff with a family, I don't have time to screw with setting crap up - especially games.

Athrun
11-25-2006, 02:50 PM
It's sooooo easy to crack it and make a unique valid windows key yourself, just search on vlk @ torrentz.com or something. Dunno if you actually wanted windows but cba to read, ignore if it's not what u want. gl

SandDemon
11-26-2006, 01:31 PM
Eh, with the whole Vista checking other Vistas for valid codes...and traveling for work, I'd rather own it when I show up to clients.

onyx
11-26-2006, 04:09 PM
get a 74 or 150g raptor.

and make sure your case can accommodate the GTX. Most cases can't. (Length of the GTX is 10.5")

Emilenda
11-26-2006, 04:35 PM
get a 74 or 150g raptor.

qft - great value.

Also it's been said already, but don't waste your money on a 8000 series graphics card just yet. You're paying for things that aren't going to be used commonly for a while yet. Unless of course you feel like just chucking money around, in which case chuck some this way..

Valkyr
11-26-2006, 04:47 PM
if I was buying a new processor for gaming I'd prolly go for AMD 64 x2 live processor, as they are usually cheaper than intel and I would hate to see my core 2 duo processor get owned by the quattro processor coming out soon like what happened to Pentium D.

SandDemon
11-26-2006, 06:44 PM
well I got the 8800 GTX because I want this machine to last a good 2-3 years, so it'll get use later on and then I can upgrade later with another 8800 GTX for SLI.

Athrun
11-27-2006, 05:25 PM
well you can still make ur own unique code :D like 24 numbers, or 30? what's the chance someone gets the same.. nill

keboman
11-27-2006, 08:32 PM
Get a slower Conroe and save $250.

Quality of memory really doesn't matter as long as it works with your board.

A good quality 400 or 500 watt powersupply will work fine.

Vista is a complete waste right now, just use your existing XP key.

KillerNIC is retarded.

Raptors do make loading games noticeably faster, I'd get a 60 at the minimum since games are 8gigs+ now. Pretty much any drive will work for raw storage.

8800GTX will be great.

You will NOT notice _at all_ that your conroe is slower, your memory is cheaper, or your powersupply isn't made of solid gold.

8800GTX SLI will never be worth the money with your monitor, since it only does 1920x1200. So don't bother with a SLI motherboard.

Theldon
11-27-2006, 10:43 PM
get a 74 or 150g raptor.

and make sure your case can accommodate the GTX. Most cases can't. (Length of the GTX is 10.5")

Raptors are noisy as fuck. I regret buying my raptor drive. Sure its fast as hell, but its like a turbine. Its louder than my fridge for peat sake!

Edit: Oh and don't be stupid and buy the top of the line stuff. Anyone that does it is either too rich for their own good, or doesn't know any better.

SandDemon
11-27-2006, 11:20 PM
Raptors are noisy as fuck. I regret buying my raptor drive. Sure its fast as hell, but its like a turbine. Its louder than my fridge for peat sake!

Edit: Oh and don't be stupid and buy the top of the line stuff. Anyone that does it is either too rich for their own good, or doesn't know any better.

The machine was designed to last 2-3 years with room for upgrading. 8800GTX will get use later, and I won't be forced to upgrade for a very very long time (especially considering I can get another for SLI). The mobo can handle quad-core's later, a physics card, 2 more raptor hds, a killer nic....it's got room for upgrading, but nothing I need to do immediately.

That and money honestly isn't that big of a deal when it comes to hundred dollar differences - I'm not a poor college student anymore, I'm an over-paid consultant :P

keboman
11-28-2006, 01:20 AM
You should save money on stuff that doesn't matter and put it towards stuff that does such as:

A kick ass chair
Actual speakers and sound system (not computer shit).
Decent quality Headphones
A calibration kit for your lcd
A second monitor
A nice case with decent quality fans (like Papst or some of the newer Sanyo-Denki) that are nice and quiet.


All of which will add more to the computer than 5% faster gaming.. at the most.. and no gain when all the visuals are cranked.

Seriously, if I had a 5k budget for a PC it wouldn't even have the top-end stuff. Sooo much other stuff that's more bang for the buck for the computing/game-playing experience ;)

A friend of mine bought a 37" 1080p LCD and uses it as his monitor. Runs at 1920x1080 and it looks amazing after being calibrated. There did seem to be slight ghosting, but not any more than the 2405FPW in the other room.

SandDemon
11-28-2006, 02:12 AM
I've got a badass chair, planning on another 24 inch widescreen dell later, I got some of the best headphones in existance, waiting on a good speaker deal, and dont really care about the case honestly.

I got the important stuff that's expensive, so in 2 years or even a year I'm not going to be like "shit, i shoulda upgraded that". My computer right now could last me until 2-3 years down the road and I honestly wouldn't complain.

And I'm not blowing 5k all at once, I spent 680 on the monitor about 2 weeks ago and just spent 2590 on the comp (upgraded to fatal1ty card, with x-ram). Now when I find a speaker deal in about 6 months, I can go crazy on that and a refrigerator :P I buy shit in stages, not half-ass all at once.

keboman
11-28-2006, 02:30 AM
I use my old 19" CRT for games rather than the 2405FPW still WTB new lcd tech

Theldon
11-28-2006, 12:31 PM
The machine was designed to last 2-3 years with room for upgrading. 8800GTX will get use later, and I won't be forced to upgrade for a very very long time (especially considering I can get another for SLI). The mobo can handle quad-core's later, a physics card, 2 more raptor hds, a killer nic....it's got room for upgrading, but nothing I need to do immediately.

That and money honestly isn't that big of a deal when it comes to hundred dollar differences - I'm not a poor college student anymore, I'm an over-paid consultant :P

Room for upgrading? I hope you realize that when your coming due to upgrade in 2 years all that old technology will be 'outdated' with new connects, new sockets and new gizmo's. Mostly the CPU's are the culprits of these.

You can buy a really good computer buying things that are the average prices and not the latest and greatest thing that just hit the market. Its so over-inflated when it first comes out, that it drops in value so fast that you lose money right away. Yes, everything does eventually drop to no value at all (computer parts) but choosing when to buy is usually your best bet. ie. buying a $800 video card vs a $300 video card that is pretty damn good.

Buying the latest and greatest CPU is like buying $4000 worth of milk in one weekend, and forgetting that it has an expirary date.

SandDemon
11-28-2006, 12:52 PM
Well either way, I feel that 2600 every 3 years aien't bad considering the machine.

Cyrn
11-28-2006, 12:57 PM
It's either 1k every 1.5 years with pretty much 'good' performance all the time or 2.5k every 3 without the extra OS install and with 'great' down to 'ok' performance.

SandDemon
11-28-2006, 01:33 PM
So I spent 500 more every 3 years, but I get better performance for the majority of it....I dont see a problem here

Cyrn
11-28-2006, 02:44 PM
Yeah, unless you are doing something retarded like spending 3x as much for a 10% performance increase (EXTREME EDITION) I don't see why people are whining. And while the normal 'newest graphics cards out' is twice the money for 20% increase, the 8800s are twice as fast as anything currently on the market.

SandDemon
11-28-2006, 03:08 PM
Yeah the 8800 GTX seemed worth the cost difference of $100 bucks or so from the 7-series. I didn't go crazy quad-core or anything anywhere else - and the Fatal1ty card seemed worth the +40 upgrade from the Extreme-Gamer too.

Margus
11-30-2006, 02:36 AM
Need a kickass chair?
Get a fucking Recaro Office Sport (http://www.recaro-officeline.com/produkte/office-sport.html)
that chair definetly kicks ass, ofc it isn't really cheap but it sitting in a sports car seat while playing WoW feels like heaven :>

Just one problem imho, the only company that produces it comes from Austria :D

Sar
11-30-2006, 10:23 AM
buying a new PC this weekend. my old shuttle XPC is almost 3years old now. had a 2,6ghz P4, radeon 8500pro and 1gig DDR.
i´am looking for some good bang-for-the-buck, as a student my budged ist a bit limited, so i decided for some low-end intel with huge overclocking potential. remindes me a bit to the good old "celeron 300A@450" times with 3Dfx-voodoo and that stuff ^^


my thoughts so far: (prices are from a big german online-dealer)

Intel Core 2 Duo (Conroe) E6400 2130MHz S775 2MB Box 193,84 €


MSI P965 Platinum P965 S775 FSB 1066MHz SATA2 PCIe ATX 127,85 €


256MB ATI Radeon X1950 Pro GDDR3 2x DVI TVOut PCIeRetail 185,85 €


250GB Western Digital WD2500KS CAVIAR SE 7200rpm sATA II 16MB 72,97 €


2x
1024MB MDT DDR2 667MHz CL4 211,12 €

--------
791,63 €

planning about 100-150 for case and powersupply, that i´ll buy at a local dealer to safe some shipping-costs.

any experiences/toughts about these components?

Valkyr
11-30-2006, 11:27 AM
buying a new PC this weekend. my old shuttle XPC is almost 3years old now. had a 2,6ghz P4, radeon 8500pro and 1gig DDR.
i´am looking for some good bang-for-the-buck, as a student my budged ist a bit limited, so i decided for some low-end intel with huge overclocking potential. remindes me a bit to the good old "celeron 300A@450" times with 3Dfx-voodoo and that stuff ^^


my thoughts so far: (prices are from a big german online-dealer)

Intel Core 2 Duo (Conroe) E6400 2130MHz S775 2MB Box 193,84 €


MSI P965 Platinum P965 S775 FSB 1066MHz SATA2 PCIe ATX 127,85 €


256MB ATI Radeon X1950 Pro GDDR3 2x DVI TVOut PCIeRetail 185,85 €


250GB Western Digital WD2500KS CAVIAR SE 7200rpm sATA II 16MB 72,97 €


2x
1024MB MDT DDR2 667MHz CL4 211,12 €

--------
791,63 €

planning about 100-150 for case and powersupply, that i´ll buy at a local dealer to safe some shipping-costs.

any experiences/toughts about these components?

as I've mention earlier in this thread, if I was buying a processor for gaming right now I'd go with AMD instead of intel, a decent athlon X2 processor most likely. I also had a MSI board in the past and it was the worse board I've had, constant rebooting and so on. I changed it after 6 months and got a Gigabyte and it has been working perfectly for over 2 years now. I had an Asus mboard in the past too and it was very good too, just a bit more expensive than gigabyte.

Investing in good ram if you want stability is always a good choice, people tend to go with shitty brands and it can lead to problems, Corsair is the best I think, and Kingston is usually decent too.

onyx
11-30-2006, 08:09 PM
just built my new hoss system with a 8800 gtx, oc'ed my e6600 atm to 2.9ghz (and can probably go even higher).

fucking amazing fps and speed in everything.

Valkyr
11-30-2006, 08:24 PM
just built my new hoss system with a 8800 gtx, oc'ed my e6600 atm to 2.9ghz (and can probably go even higher).

fucking amazing fps and speed in everything.

yea I was reading about Intel core 2 duo processors this afternoon, it is a pretty amazing processor, I thought AMD was still the best for gaming, but apparently its not.

keboman
11-30-2006, 10:55 PM
Yeah, unless you are doing something retarded like spending 3x as much for a 10% performance increase (EXTREME EDITION) I don't see why people are whining. And while the normal 'newest graphics cards out' is twice the money for 20% increase, the 8800s are twice as fast as anything currently on the market.

Well, the stuff I mentioned makes no discernible difference, a more expensive graphics card does ;)

Bhaltair
11-30-2006, 11:34 PM
Well, the stuff I mentioned makes no discernible difference, a more expensive graphics card does ;)

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/11/29/geforce_8800_needs_the_fastest_cpu/

Seems you're wrong, we are getting to a point where you need quality parts in every slot if you want the best. If you're going to be spending money on a quality system to last a couple years might as well buy some of the best quality parts.

keboman
12-01-2006, 12:37 AM
The fastest AMD cpu is slower than the slowest Core 2 Duo. He isn't comparing a 2.6ghz Conroe with a 2.4Ghz Conroe.. otherwise it'd be less than a 10% difference for $250 less.

Here's an example:
http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2795&p=15

There's always a sweet spot every few years, I've been riding it hard for a long time.

P90@120mhz
Pentium 200
Celeron 300a@450
Celeron 366@550
Slot Athlon 500@700
P3 700@933
Socketed T-bird 1.2@1.4
Barton 2500+ @3200+
Athlon64 2.0ghz @2.5ghz

A new platform every time.. sell old parts get new.. it's way cheaper and I haven't been outdated until lately ;/

SandDemon
12-01-2006, 01:08 AM
just built my new hoss system with a 8800 gtx, oc'ed my e6600 atm to 2.9ghz (and can probably go even higher).

fucking amazing fps and speed in everything.

just basic OC'd via Bios? or you running some sexy water-cooling etc. Wondering how far I can get my 2.66 c2duo.

-also, what's a good venue to sell your old computer shit online? I got a pretty decent box (amd64 3200+, nvidia 6800 oc'd, 1gog corsair, raid 0, etc)....just curious where to sell it and somewhere maybe I can enter all the parts in and figure a good price instead of going through some price website (because my parts aren't worth 100% going rate since they're used).

Athenos
12-01-2006, 10:48 AM
I'd go with something like this over the thermaltake.
http://www.pcpowercooling.com/products/viewproduct.php?show=S75EPS&view=techspecs

Theldon
12-01-2006, 12:18 PM
just built my new hoss system with a 8800 gtx, oc'ed my e6600 atm to 2.9ghz (and can probably go even higher).

fucking amazing fps and speed in everything.

Wow doesn't need this to run well. I get awesome fps with no lag on maxed settings in some intense AV fights.

I just have:

1.5 GB Corsair Value Ram
P4 3.0Ghz
Radeon 9800Pro

Everything else is nothing special. Not OC'd.

Bhaltair
12-01-2006, 02:43 PM
Wow doesn't need this to run well. I get awesome fps with no lag on maxed settings in some intense AV fights.

I just have:

1.5 GB Corsair Value Ram
P4 3.0Ghz
Radeon 9800Pro

Everything else is nothing special. Not OC'd.

I really disagree here, I used to think like you until I upgraded a month ago and I can say that upgrading my computer has increased my dps by 10-20% just from the better frame rates and overall performance. Not to mention that the Max settings in the WoW options leave much to be desired. Using your video card control center and enabling Temporal AA, 6xAA, Adaptive AA, 16xAF, High Quality AF all make WoW look much better than you could ever imagine.

IN88fingers
12-01-2006, 02:52 PM
Well I bought it from cyberpowerpc since they had a sale, putting it 200 cheaper than newegg with all the exact same stuff plus I get the warranty.

And yeah WindowsXP-64 sucks, but I might as well go with the 64-bit Vista when it comes up mid Nov

i've bought my last 4 systems (within 3 yrs) all from cyberpower and they all were great. for bang for buck they seem hard to beat

Skunkworks
12-01-2006, 03:57 PM
i've bought my last 4 systems (within 3 yrs) all from cyberpower and they all were great. for bang for buck they seem hard to beat


+1
My last two systems were cyberpower, both were put together incredibly well and were cheaper than if I had bought everything seperately and put it together myself.

SandDemon
12-01-2006, 04:44 PM
i've bought my last 4 systems (within 3 yrs) all from cyberpower and they all were great. for bang for buck they seem hard to beat

Cool :) I'll let ya know when mine comes, should ship on the 11th.

onyx
12-01-2006, 06:08 PM
unless you get a really bad 6600, you should be able to get 3.3-3.4ghz out of it MINIMUM.

SandDemon
12-01-2006, 08:00 PM
unless you get a really bad 6600, you should be able to get 3.3-3.4ghz out of it MINIMUM.

i've got a 6700, heard they're a bit harder to OC...and we're talking basic fans, no water cooling. Doubt I'd get it that high

onyx
12-01-2006, 08:59 PM
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1075792

Sar
12-02-2006, 01:16 AM
the list is awsome onyx, here is the german pendant: http://www.langefecht.de/img/user/pantherklaus/oc_intel_conroe/

actually i´m really excited what my E6400 can do.

Keboman, great articel and this was a great help deciding between E6400 and E6600. they are actually ~100€ different in price.

selecting a mainboard wasnt easy, Asus P5B Deluxe vs. Gigabyte DS4. due the very good results at Hard-ocp and oder sites i orderd the Gigabyte yesterday. http://www.gigabyte.de/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2278&ModelName=GA-965P-DS4

my 3D-card will be a Gainward 7900gs "golden-sample" with around 160€ it was very cheap and seems to be a great overclocker. http://www.gainward.net/products/product.php?products_id=71 dont want to spent too much for this, while the new DX10-generation is on the horizon.

Gigamo
12-02-2006, 02:45 AM
Buying myself a new pc too soonish. My question is, purely for gaming, AMD X2 4600+ or Intel E6600? Don't want the cpu to bottleneck my 8800GTS aswell. Oh and if I take intel I'd be forced to take a MSI board. Can take asus with amd. Anything that i should know of on mobo brands?

Opinions please, want to know if E6600 is really that much better for what I want to do with it :)

Oh and I'm not that much into overclocking, I will OC a bit, but not much, only getting a boxed cooler.

keboman
12-02-2006, 04:24 AM
The slowest Conroe is faster than the fastest AMD so.. Conroe?

Get the board that has the features you want and do a bit of research if you're looking to overclock. Motherboard quality (outside of overclocking) doesn't matter that much anymore since the problem with bad capacitors is over.

onyx
12-02-2006, 08:31 AM
get a 6600, great price, imo. I have the ASUS P5W DH Deluxe for my computer I just built. Haven't had any problems with it. I might suggest getting one of the new 600i series from NVIDIA instead if you want the best of the best out right now.

Gigamo
12-02-2006, 09:00 AM
So e6600 is definately better on all platforms than any AMD? And there's nothing wrong performance wise about the p965 chipset compared to the 975X? (was thinking of this mobo now: http://www2.abit.com.tw/page/be/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NAME=AB9+Pro&fMTYPE=LGA775?)


And then a last question if I'm going to take Intel, I know it depends on the core and such but how far do E6600's usually go with boxed cooler?

Devilnaut
12-02-2006, 05:54 PM
check ze pms sand

SandDemon
12-02-2006, 11:07 PM
check ze pms sand

check yours ;)

Sar
12-03-2006, 03:44 PM
gigamo, the abit borad isnt a very good overclocker :/ i would recommend an "asus P5B deluxe" or a gigabyte DS3/DS4 or DQ6

i ordered the DS4 yesterday. with that boxed-cooler you should bring your E6600 to 3-3,2ghz easily.

SandDemon
12-03-2006, 04:27 PM
gigamo, the abit borad isnt a very good overclocker :/ i would recommend an "asus P5B deluxe" or a gigabyte DS3/DS4 or DQ6

i ordered the DS4 yesterday. with that boxed-cooler you should bring our E6600 to 3-3,2ghz easily.

Been so long since I OC'd my dual Celeron's......you just up the clock then try it out to see if it blows up and check temperature, or is there a more systematic way to do that this day-and-age?

Sar
12-04-2006, 01:43 AM
there are lots of good OC-guides around, i.e.:
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/10/10/cheap_thrills/index.html
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/Core2Duo-Overclocking-Guide-v1-ftopict197995.html
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000697.html

greetings,
Sar

Gigamo
12-04-2006, 03:01 AM
Well im not looking to overclock, just want the best machine.

Gigamo
12-04-2006, 03:40 AM
Ordered the PC today btw:

- Antec Sonata II 450W (http://www.antec.com/ec/productDetails.php?ProdID=08140)
- LG DVD Black
- OCZ 2x1024MB DDR2 677 Gold series (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_5400_gold_gx_xtc_dual_channel)
- Intel core2duo E6600
- Abit AW9D Max (http://www.abit.com.tw/page/be/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NAME=AW9D-MAX&fMTYPE=LGA775)
- Microsoft Habu Razer mouse (http://www.razerzone.com/Products/Gaming-Mice/Microsoft-Habu-Gaming-Mouse/)
- Western Digital 250GB 16MB Sata300 (http://www.westerndigital.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=133)
- Point of View 8800GTS (http://www.pointofview-online.com/default2.asp?content_id=186)

Yey!

Athrun
12-04-2006, 04:12 AM
That motherboard lends itself to this guide, i´d definately overclock it for like a 50% boost lol.
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/Core2Duo-Overclocking-Guide-v1-ftopict197995.html
Ok now i'm very interested in this, but never have touched it before. I ran this cpu-z program i see on screenies and these are the results for my pc.
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/247/lolprojn9.jpg
i got 2 of the same ram slots.
Now i suck @ paint, but I also dunno if i'm right on this but looks like i don't have what it takes to overclock. Right or wrong Oo?

Margus
12-04-2006, 07:35 AM
Gigamo! Feedback about the razer, right now!
I'll give you me babies for it!
:D

Gigamo
12-04-2006, 07:49 AM
Will do when its here.

Margus
12-04-2006, 08:33 AM
<3!

SandDemon
12-04-2006, 11:21 AM
Gigamo! Feedback about the razer, right now!
I'll give you me babies for it!
:D

Same here, I'm still using the Razorback but I'd like to hear how that one is doing...

Sar
12-04-2006, 03:09 PM
i use this one for 6month now, very happy with it:
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=042

http://img.clubic.com/photo/000000F000141406.jpg

whats the main difference between the two, aside of that LED-bling-bling stuff?

SandDemon
12-04-2006, 05:30 PM
Maybe I'm weird, but I like the feel of the Razer models like the Diamondback. It takes a bit to get used to, but it's solid once you get it down. It's hilarious having people sit down at my computer for the first time and the mouse has it's high sensitivity, watching them struggle :)

SandDemon
01-03-2007, 12:33 AM
Well after caving, I decided to play around overclocking the machine...fixed the ram to 5-5-5-12 (corsair defaults, they were 5-5-5-18) and got the e6700 cpu to overclock to 3.5ghz completely fine on air.

Now to tackle the 8800GTX to get more outta this puppy

Sar
01-03-2007, 03:55 PM
OC´ed my E6400 to 3,2ghz (+50%) and my nVidia 7900gs about (+18%)

in pvp i always got 60 FPS (capped) and on worst-case pve-raid 40+FPS. very happy with my new gaming-rig, power is outrageous and the whole tower alot quieter than my old one. spend 900€ for the new system.

RubiksCube
01-05-2007, 04:18 AM
OC´ed my E6400 to 3,2ghz (+50%) and my nVidia 7900gs about (+18%)

in pvp i always got 60 FPS (capped) and on worst-case pve-raid 40+FPS. very happy with my new gaming-rig, power is outrageous and the whole tower alot quieter than my old one. spend 900€ for the new system.

giev! now!

SandDemon
01-05-2007, 09:59 AM
What kind of 3dmark06 score do you pull in?

Gigamo
01-05-2007, 03:15 PM
Yeah I received my new system a week ago aswell, quit playing WoW though. :) It's absolutely amazing and FAST!, currently my E6600 is running at 3GHz with the stock cooler, but I'm ordering a better one soonish so hoping to hit ~3.4.

Full specs:

E6600, Asus P5W DH Deluxe, 2x 1GB DDR2 PC6400, 250GB WD, Sparkle 8800GTS clocked at 550/850 in an antec sonata II. Whole system including mouse (habu) and keyboard costed 1500 euros :)

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