Pain Suppression, The Verdict

[Belarin]

Since it seems that Blizz is not going to change their mind and make Pain Suppression non-dispellable, do you think it's still worth taking for arena PvP where it's almost sure to be almost immediately removed?

Personally I'm considering a 28/33/0 Blessed Resilience build for better healing versitility, and decent defence without relying on easily counterable cooldowns. Other non-pain suppression options are 40/21/0 for enlightenment, or maybe some tri-spec to include Silence.

Thoughts?

[Valkyr]

Since it seems that Blizz is not going to change their mind and make Pain Suppression non-dispellable, do you think it's still worth taking for arena PvP where it's almost sure to be almost immediately removed?

Personally I'm considering a 28/33/0 Blessed Resilience build for better healing versitility, and decent defence without relying on easily counterable cooldowns. Other non-pain suppression options are 40/21/0 for enlightenment, or maybe some tri-spec to include Silence.

Thoughts?

from what I hear, if you're a pvp healer, blessed resilience is the way to go, and I dont think its worth sacrificing so many disc points or holy point to get one situationally useful spell in the shadow tree.

I feel like with everyone having quite more HP, divine fury / improved healing is gonna be more necessary than ever if you plan on being a PvP main healer, blessed resilience looks pretty damn awesome to survive spike dmg, and I know I'd personally go for something like

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-priest/talents.html?5002320133500100000002335513013200020 30300000000000000000000000

to get holy concentration which also seems pretty nice. a highest rank gheal for no mana cost seems quite interesting :/

[fatmike]

If I can find the link, but im sure I wont be able to, but this could give you an idea how badass priests are going to be. Anyone in the rogue community should know who Ming is. Well, Ming wrote something that kind of threw me off...

(ok I cant find the link, but it basically went like this)

"holy priests own my ass. PoM, Blessed Resilience, Blessed Recovery and lots of +heal with renew and I cant out DPS his HoT and triggered heal effects."

this is an extreme paraphrase. Basically, holy priests are going to be badass in group pvp now

[Archetype]

If I can find the link, but im sure I wont be able to, but this could give you an idea how badass priests are going to be. Anyone in the rogue community should know who Ming is. Well, Ming wrote something that kind of threw me off...

(ok I cant find the link, but it basically went like this)

"holy priests own my ass. PoM, Blessed Resilience, Blessed Recovery and lots of +heal with renew and I cant out DPS his HoT and triggered heal effects."

this is an extreme paraphrase. Basically, holy priests are going to be badass in group pvp now

For the record, Ming did say that, but since the change to wound poisons he's claimed that holy priests will be no problem now.

[fatmike]

they changed wound poison? sweetness:D

[Rickert]

Honestly i think the changes they did to wound poison are retarded.
Imo they were going into the right direction with their hp/surviablity buff, so you had to outplay an enemy team, not outdps them. Disable/kill their healers, not just debuff healing effects on your target and render healer useless.

This "kill it before it kills you"-stuff gets awful boring, you know.

[Crouton]

Since it seems that Blizz is not going to change their mind and make Pain Suppression non-dispellable

where did you see this?

[Archetype]

Honestly i think the changes they did to wound poison are retarded.
Imo they were going into the right direction with their hp/surviablity buff, so you had to outplay an enemy team, not outdps them. Disable/kill their healers, not just debuff healing effects on your target and render healer useless.

This "kill it before it kills you"-stuff gets awful boring, you know.

I definitely degree. The way wound poison is now is almost on par with mortal strike - a class defining ability. It should be nerfed to 25%. Would still be better than the current wound poison, but not so ridiculous.

[jpwstreck]

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-priest/talents.html?0550003020020000000000030000000000000 00000533022502150123051001

is this build any good?

[Phixus]

So I'm actually going to have to choose between using Stoneform on Blind or Wound poison, hmm :/
Still think saving it for Blind will be worth it in the end.

[Abbod]

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-priest/talents.html?0550003020020000000000030000000000000 00000533022502150123051001

is this build any good?

no.

[Jayo]

these 2 builds are pr0n imho:

(holie/disco):
http://www.wow-europe.com/de/info/underdev/burningcrusade/priest/talents.html?5002220133000000000002305513003021500 00300000000000000000000000

and

(disc/holy):
http://www.wow-europe.com/de/info/underdev/burningcrusade/priest/talents.html?5002320133525120015012305000000000000 00000000000000000000000000

which one would you choose? my fav is the (disc/holy) build, cuz the 2 sec. cast-time manaburn, lolsupression and the reactive shield could kick asses.

[Archetype]

these 2 builds are pr0n imho:

(holie/disco):
http://www.wow-europe.com/de/info/underdev/burningcrusade/priest/talents.html?5002220133000000000002305513003021500 00300000000000000000000000

and

(disc/holy):
http://www.wow-europe.com/de/info/underdev/burningcrusade/priest/talents.html?5002320133525120015012305000000000000 00000000000000000000000000

which one would you choose? my fav is the (disc/holy) build, cuz the 2 sec. cast-time manaburn, lolsupression and the reactive shield could kick asses.

English muthafucka! Do you speak it?

[Jayo]

ja.

[Valkyr]

I kinda like pain suppression so far, its a pretty good ability but I fear it will get purged pretty quick against opponents who knows what they're doing.

I also dont really see whats suppose to be so good about reflective shield, so I didnt put it in the build I'm using right now.

My biggest concern however is since there's no reason to use gheal rank 1 or heal rank 4 in PvP anymore because of the downranking nerf, I'm debating if I should get spell warding or still go for divine fury, specially now that improved healing isnt attainable since I went for Pain Suppression. I've kept divine fury for now, but I really do miss the 10% dmg reduction from casters.

Oh and Unstable affliction is fucking retarded, Blizzard better do something about it or I predict a ton of pallies/priests leaving in the upcoming weeks.

here's my build for 2.0

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-priest/talents.html?5002322133525100010512300500000000000 00000000000000000000000000

[Crouton]

I kinda like pain suppression so far, its a pretty good ability but I fear it will get purged pretty quick against opponents who knows what they're doing.

I also dont really see whats suppose to be so good about reflective shield, so I didnt put it in the build I'm using right now.

My biggest concern however is since there's no reason to use gheal rank 1 or heal rank 4 in PvP anymore because of the downranking nerf, I'm debating if I should get spell warding or still go for divine fury, specially now that improved healing isnt attainable since I went for Pain Suppression. I've kept divine fury for now, but I really do miss the 10% dmg reduction from casters.

Oh and Unstable affliction is fucking retarded, Blizzard better do something about it or I predict a ton of pallies/priests leaving in the upcoming weeks.

here's my build for 2.0

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-priest/talents.html?5002322133525100010512300500000000000 00000000000000000000000000


Reflective shield is good mainly because of how the proc functions, every bit of damage absorbed reflects a % back to the damage dealer in the form of direct damage, aka the type of damage that interrupts cast times, so imagine a reflective shield on someone who has a few dots, or maybe an ignite on them. It definately has its uses imo.

[Valkyr]

Reflective shield is good mainly because of how the proc functions, every bit of damage absorbed reflects a % back to the damage dealer in the form of direct damage, aka the type of damage that interrupts cast times, so imagine a reflective shield on someone who has a few dots, or maybe an ignite on them. It definately has its uses imo.

did it happen a break a lot of CC on your opponents for you? I'm probably gonna try it out eventually, but around 480 dmg when it doesnt get purged for 5 talent point didnt sound too appealing for me.

[Belarin]

Reflective shield is good mainly because of how the proc functions, every bit of damage absorbed reflects a % back to the damage dealer in the form of direct damage, aka the type of damage that interrupts cast times, so imagine a reflective shield on someone who has a few dots, or maybe an ignite on them. It definately has its uses imo.

One question I've always wondered is:

Does anyone know the exact formula for damage delaying cast time? Does it depend on the amount of damage?

If not, I might see it (in a group setting) as a 1 point talent like Blessed Recovery.