Warrior: Hamstring vs Piercing Howl

[jobanaaa]

can anyone explain it to me, please.

[Sakon]

Well, hamstring does dmg and slows one single target. Piercing howl dazes all targets around the warrior. That makes Piercing howl more of a group control skill, rather than 1v1 skill.

[Sintor]

10 seconds (hs) vs 6 seconds (ph); base 50% speed reduction on piercing howl, 60% on HS at 60 w/o talents.

[skurvu]

edit: nm

[jobanaaa]

I'm asking just because I lack Talant Points and thinking about cuting Imp.Charge and Imp.Hamstring.
- Hamstring DMG is pretty weak (1)
- 10 sec vs 6 sec is not very revalent, since you gonna kill/stun your target pretty fast.
- Hamstring can miss (well PH can be resisted too)
I'm thinking "why the hell"? I'll save those points for mastery or something.... or you have more arguments?

[Manorien]

PH is Area effect.

you dont have to worry about which way you are facing or the miss rate.

do i think 10% more slow on improved hamstring is worth it? no, but then i dont play on a PVP server, where snaring your target is probably much more important.

i think your points are better spent in PH then in Hamstring. AE is nice, and good for crowd control, pve and pvp.

[jobanaaa]

piercing howl — 50% speed reduction (1 tp spend)
hamstring — 40+10% (from 2 tp spend)

[Manorien]

actually hamstring is base 60% at lvl 60. with 2 tp its 10% better.

and piercing howl requires 5 talents in demo shout improvement, so it really costs 6.

[Inconsiderable]

impr demo shout is worth the 5 points.

[jobanaaa]

Well.. if you wanna go to some nice talants, you HAVE to put some points into the tree. and Demo shout is just the best choice that's it.

mano, yeah, I wrote it stupid way 60% - 10% whould be way better, but the result is still 50%