Talents post 51 to enrage (Warrior)

[Luxury]

I'm a 51 warrior right now nearing 52 and I'm just stumped as to where I should put the rest of my talent points. I have 31 in arms with MS and all that good stuff and then i have 5 in cruelty 5 in improved demo shout and 1 in piercing howl. Now I want to get to 5 in enrage but I just cant decide where to dump the next 4 talent points. I'm between 4 in booming shout just to alleviate the annoyance of recasting battle shout so often or 4 in improved battle shout since dps is always nice. Any advice from higher level warriors would be appreciated .

[Xzan]

I've been wondering the exact same thing. I'm leaning towards Improved Battle Shout though. Not sure ;\

[Sintor]

Dal went 3 blood craze, 1 booming voice. I went 4 improved battle shout for the 20% increase.

Edit: BC because he's a troll and it stacks with racial. I figure my BS lasts as long as the fight anyway, might as well be more powerful.

[Inconsiderable]

Even as Troll I wouldnt get Bloodcraze. A level-60 Tauren without any Spirit-Items gains 40 Health over 20 seconds with Bloodcraze.

[Sintor]

What does being a tauren have to do with health regen? It's not percent based.

[Luxury]

Thanks for the feedback Sintor, I noticed that Indal was a troll so his choice wouldnt be a great choice for me. I was leaning towards improved battle shout anyway since more dps is thanks.

[Inconsiderable]

What does being a tauren have to do with health regen? It's not percent based.

I mentioned the race because of the different spirit value.

[Sintor]

The point of taking it as a troll is innate health regen stacking, not superior spi. With the warrior bonus to health regen, a 10% bonus to regen, and 10% regen in combat innate, blood craze is worth it over time.

[Inconsiderable]

20 seconds = 6 ticks
depending on gear 15% = 7-10 healthregen

42-60 health gained over 20 seconds

did i math it wrong?

[keboman]

Are 5 points in improved battle shout better than 5% chance to crit, not taking talents into the equation? I'm curious what kind of damage boost it gives.

[Sintor]

Our troll warriors are doing heavy spirit builds. Also, as a troll, it's not just 15%, it's 25% of a warrior hp regen with 10% bonus added in before BC and In-combat regen.

Assuming 150 hp/tic, which is liberal for troll warriors with lots of +spi gear, that's going to be a constant 15 hp/tic in combat and an additional 22 hp/tic when crit hit for a total of 37 hp/tic *6, or 222 hp every 18 seconds after crit. Assuming you are the victim of a crit once every 20 seconds, you will be looking at over 600 hp/min. I'd call that useful, but to each their own.

[keboman]

Wow, that's just with 150/tick? My undead warrior at 48 gets that with 61 spirit!

edit: No, he gets 55.. stupid buggy calculator 0_0