Rogue Talent Build released.

[Otzo]

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues2/talents.html

Everyone going Subtelity i'd guess, too bad they didn't make Vigor give 20 energy and remove the 5 piece NS setbonus. =\

[Jedus]

New kidney shot is money.

[Otzo]

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues2/talents.html?3053201051010000000000000000000000550 203100301211150

Thoughts?

[Skunkworks]

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues2/talents.html?3053201051010000000000000000000000550 203100301211150

Thoughts?


Using Daggers?

No opportunity, imp backstab, imp gouge, and imp ambush is kinda rough, but your total skill package is pretty complete.

Deadliness is a solid talent but it seems to mean giving up some talents I previously thought were pretty essential for a dagger rogue.

[tieshoes]

Finally, another reason for me to go hemo.

[SandDemon]

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues2/talents.html?3053231050210400230550000050020000000 000000000000000

Human rogue sword spec for PVE?

Still can't decide between that and this:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues2/talents.html?3053211050000000230550000050050231000 000000000000000

[Menath]

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues2/talents.html?3053211050000000230550000050050231000 000000000000000

I like that build, but why imp slice & dice instead of something useful, like Blade flurry?

[tieshoes]

They're both kinda horrible in my opinion, but its all preference, just that you have some useless talents put in. Are you going for full on Pve? or both PvP/PvE

[SandDemon]

full raiding....if I went pvp I'd do something stupid like (posted this on my guild forum):

Deadly Poison 5 with talents = 782 over 12sec
Garrote (50% increase) = 1050 over 24sec
Improved Rupture = 351 over 6sec

So let's say you Garrote for 2pts (Intiative), vanish, cheapshot for 3, rupture for 5points and beat on them for the 4 seconds. Let's also assume with supersexy luck you land all 5 deadly poisons (40% chance on each hit/ability).

Let's say you don't feel like fighting anymore, you're done with him. So you use premeditation and vanish and watch. Assuming you did NO damage besides the poisons/garrote/rupture, you just did 3047 damage. Assuming a normal amount of hits during that 4 seconds, you've done ~3500 damage after 4 seconds of a combat versus a stunned opponent who has a 40% chance he can't dispel the poisons.

Owned?

Now let's say during that 4 seconds you start getting some combo points - Ghostly Strike, sinister, etc. Then you burn a kidney shot. Let's say that takes you 15 seconds. For the next 9 seconds, you're gonna deal 9% more damage with all the rupture/poison/garrote and your normal attacks. It'd only add like 150 dmg from the DOTs though, which sucks.

Still pissed I can't get sword spec and deadliness

[blutrausch]

i your full raiding, why would you want to spec eviscerate and seal fate? having S/D up 24/7 + spamming SS should give you more damage.

[Miragul]

I was considering testing something like this for full PvP (dagger max damage spec/survivability)...

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues2/talents.html?3353001050003003043002020000000000450 050000000000000

or maybe something like this (dagger crit/weapon skill)...

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues2/talents.html?3253201050003003033252020500000200000 000000000000000

[Skunkworks]

I was considering testing something like this for full PvP (dagger max damage spec/survivability)...

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues2/talents.html?3353001050003003043002020000000000450 050000000000000

or maybe something like this (dagger crit/weapon skill)...

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues2/talents.html?3253201050003003033252020500000200000 000000000000000


That close and no Cold Blood?

[Miragul]

Yeah, I know it seems a little odd not to get CB being that close. I've always used it in all my specs over the 6+ rogues I've played, but I'm in an experimental phase and CB wasn't a huge must on my list.

This... http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues2/talents.html?3353001050013003043002020000000000350 050000000000000

...might be a better alternative for the first spec. One point from MoD to CB.

[Skunkworks]

Yeah, I know it seems a little odd not to get CB being that close. I've always used it in all my specs over the 6+ rogues I've played, but I'm in an experimental phase and CB wasn't a huge must on my list.

This... http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues2/talents.html?3353001050013003043002020000000000350 050000000000000

...might be a better alternative for the first spec. One point from MoD to CB.

I was going to suggest the same thing.